Marquez KTFO'06 a tragic or a blessing?

[pasawayako]

the marquez ko of the pacman, was this a tragic or more of a blessing in disguise? looking back at it now, i believe marquez saved manny's career by sending him to bed early on the night of dec.8, 2012.

Had pac stay up all night that night i believe this would have ended his career early OR it would have took his career to a different route (a dead end street). where pac would have just kept going around in circles.

during this time, pac was looked at as indestructible, a machine, a work of art. all this was getting to manny and it was making his head grew even bigger than it already was. the ko gave manny a little bit of humbleness. it made him take a step back and really look at his career.

if it wasnt for the ko, i believe pac would have gone on to get ko'd in other fights against lesser name opponents, etc. because manny's head was getting so big that he was too much into himself. can yall imagine an asian floyd mayweather jr???!!! holy shiiet! suicide!!!

so the ko was more of a blessing in disguise because manny is still around, healthy and fighting against the top tier fighters in his division, where as for marquez, the man who ko'd manny, has been retired, body is breaking down on him, struggling as a promoter, etc.

I 100% agree That ko change pac approach that make him last longer... If pac didn't suffer that loss he's still the same gung ho style and probably kod by the some weaker guy. That ko help him achieved another level of his career and become one of the GREATEST EVER.

[The Big Dunn]

please stop what???!!! you're on my page telling me to stop??? wtf???!! like i said, look at the whole picture!!! why would i be mad at any fighter for turning down an offer when they can get more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????

you're trying to spin this as manny ducking but it's not gonna work. how can you blame a man for turning down an offer when he knows he can get more??? are you fvvvcking ******?!!

I’m not spinning anything. Just straight facts.

[mjbjst]

no, that wasnt embarrassing. marquez is an ATG in himself. all ATG's have fights like this. this is what define their legacy. it's what made them who they're today.

yes, why shouldnt i give him credit for making more money at the end? what the hell??!! and you have to look at why he turned it down. it was because he knew he would make more. now if he was a dummy, he would have taken the fight when the $40 mil flat fee was offered to him. but pac, proved once again, that there's levels to this.

example:

master p turned down a $1mil offer early on in his career, and look where he's at today? you catch my drift?

Marquez is hof fighter not an atg there's a difference.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I would say it was a good day for Marquez and a bad day for Pac. It's a KO loss on his record that he never got a chance to avenge. He was doing well in that fight before the KO. Many fans think Marquez is a better fighter than Pac based on that fight. I don't think getting brutally KOed was a good thing or made Pac a better fighter. His best days as a fighter were well before that fight.

oh, he got his chance. look where he's at now, look where marquez is... sometimes the world works in a different way. kinda like an ex gf, who you thought was the one for you. then yall had a fall out and years later you married another lady who is the world to you. see where im going with this. payback doesnt always have to be directed back at that person.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Marquez is hof fighter not an atg there's a difference.

that's your opinion. see the difference?

[The Big Dunn]

so it was a coward move that manny turned down floyd's bogus offer (you even said it was bogus!!!!) to fight the only man that can make manny look normal???:rofl!!!

now if manny turned it down to go fight someone like berto then yes, that would be a coward move! but how is it a coward move when he turned it down to go and fight the only man that can ever make him look normal? !!!

Stop playing dumb. It was cowardly to turn the fight down. Period.

His fighting jmm wasn’t bravery. It was the most he could make other than Floyd, that is why he took it.

He made much less than $40 mil, no ppv in that fight and got ktfo. You are jumping past that fact.

[pasawayako]

It's also a blesing that make the pac-floyd fight happen, if pac didn't loss the pac-floyd fight didn't happened.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I’m not spinning anything. Just straight facts.

oh wow i should be careful then huh. run along now kid.

[boliodogs]

I didn’t post that so there is no way you really thought this.

This is a ****** post dude. Getting ktfo was karma for turning down the fight with Floyd. If you remember he had turned jmm down for a 4th fight multiple times saying “ I have nothing more to prove”. Then took it for the reason above.

I shouldn’t have had to explain that to you.

You posts are the ****** posts. You don't need to explain anything. I understand you meant getting KOed was karma for turning down the Mayweather fight and that is just plain ******. Karma is ****** nonsense for superstitious people. Marquez just knocked him out and karma didn't have a damn thing to do with it. Why would karma give a fuc about Pac turning down a Mayweather fight???? We control our own lives and make our own destiny, not karma.

[pasawayako]

All i know it was a moment of beauty, and i was rooting for Manny in that fight.

I agree bro, that was one of the best thing happened to pac, that ko make him change his style and become a complete fighter, he become an offensive counter puncher and make his career go to another level.