Marquez KTFO'06 a tragic or a blessing?

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #51
    Originally posted by daggum
    you mean when floyd finally agreed to fight pac. it was floyd who backed down on his previous demands. it was showtime who forced floyd to fight. you dont understand things very well do you?



    only fools and pacstains are still running around telling that story

    it was always clearly obvious that Pacquiao and Arum were ducking that fight... they had no confidence that a clean Pacquiao could beat Mayweather, which is why Freddie Roach recently admitted that he knew Arum was delaying Mayweather until Pacquiao's last fight

    funnily, when it became CLEARLY obvious even to silly pac-tards that Arum and Pac were delaying that fight... pacfans started saying that BOTH guys were at fault... which was hilarious

    even Alex Ariza admitted that Pac avoided that fight

    he said... "I know they didn't want that fight, because I was there"

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      #52
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      It was a neither. It was karma because it forced him to finally agree to fight Floyd. Remember he took this fight instead of the $40 mil, no ppv offer.
      Bro.... bringing up irrefutable facts... at a pac tar—-ddded phesfiblie brings too much truth...


      Chill..

      Ruiz, Joshua, wilder are lucky PAC doesn’t ko the world..in slow motion

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      • TheCell8
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        #53
        Hard to say. Pacquiao was the same guy before and after that fight.

        Marquez on the other hand... got 10-2'd by Bradley and almost got embarrassed by Mike Alvarado. He should've retired after the Pac victory. Luckily he only fought for about 1.5 more years, cause if he stuck around he would've gotten badly hurt.

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          #54
          Originally posted by TheCell8
          Hard to say. Pacquiao was the same guy before and after that fight.

          Marquez on the other hand... got 10-2'd by Bradley and almost got embarrassed by Mike Alvarado. He should've retired after the Pac victory. Luckily he only fought for about 1.5 more years, cause if he stuck around he would've gotten badly hurt.



          Marquez was not a welter... above 130, he was punching well above his weight... after filling out at 135, his ideal weight was something like 135-140

          at a stretch you could say that Marquez developed into a 140lb'er

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            That isn’t relative to the discussion. His getting ktfo by jmm was embarrassing and didn’t have to happen.

            You are giving him credit for turning down a fight with the best boxer in the world for the most money he had ever been offered. If it was anyone else but manny you’d be critical.
            getting koed embarrassing? in boxing? that's new to me...

            and its a natural and common result in this game...some even died after absorbing brutal beatings...

            a risky part of the game....

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              #56
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules
              - -Manny made more than 4x what TUE 50-0 originally offered him when they fought.

              Ok, you math illiterate. No shame in that. Just don't go making deals!!!
              Why are you leaving out the fact he made far less than the 40 mil he turned down when he fought jmm?

              You, western and others are giving manny credit for not fighting for the biggest payday he was ever offered. Yet all of you killed wilder when he turned down aj and kill any other fighter that does this.

              I don’t understand how you guys can do that .

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                #57
                Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                No, because manny would have fought marquez after Floyd regardless.
                How can you say that when manny is quoted as saying “I have nothing more to prove with him.”?

                Come on dude you are giving manny way too much benefit of the doubt on this solely because you are a huge fan.

                Just call it straight- he turned the fight down, fought someone lesser than Floyd for less money, and got ktfo. If this was anyone else you’d call it a lose lose.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  only fools and pacstains are still running around telling that story

                  it was always clearly obvious that Pacquiao and Arum were ducking that fight... they had no confidence that a clean Pacquiao could beat Mayweather, which is why Freddie Roach recently admitted that he knew Arum was delaying Mayweather until Pacquiao's last fight

                  funnily, when it became CLEARLY obvious even to silly pac-tards that Arum and Pac were delaying that fight... pacfans started saying that BOTH guys were at fault... which was hilarious

                  even Alex Ariza admitted that Pac avoided that fight

                  he said... "I know they didn't want that fight, because I was there
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                  did he say that before or after he got kicked out from the team? !!!!!!! and what do you mean by a clean manny??? so are you implying that ariza was juicing pac up? yes, the same ariza that floyd hired for the pac fight.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    How can you say that when manny is quoted as saying “I have nothing more to prove with him.”?

                    Come on dude you are giving manny way too much benefit of the doubt on this solely because you are a huge fan.

                    Just call it straight- he turned the fight down, fought someone lesser than Floyd for less money, and got ktfo. If this was anyone else you’d call it a lose lose.
                    because after he said that, what did he do??? went and fought marquez for the 4th time!!!!!!!!! so you're questioning my assumption, yet you made your own and try to pass that as facts? !!!! this is your problem bruh. when others share their view, you shoot it down saying its bogus, then you continue on to express your view and then use that as facts.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Why are you leaving out the fact he made far less than the 40 mil he turned down when he fought jmm?

                      You, western and others are giving manny credit for not fighting for the biggest payday he was ever offered. Yet all of you killed wilder when he turned down aj and kill any other fighter that does this.

                      I don’t understand how you guys can do that .
                      wtf?? are you this dumb??? yes, he fought marquez for less than $40mil, i believe he got around $20mil for the 4th marquez fight. then he went and fought floyd after and made like $100mil+. so in the end he made more!!! isnt that what you're suppose to do??? you're using manny declining the $40 mil offer (you even admitted it was bogus) as a duck, so going by your same ******ed logic, floyd ducked manny too by asking for random test which he has never done before. do you see how dumb you sound?

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