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  • R-Hand Southpaw
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    #71
    Originally posted by ruedboy
    If Alvarez pressured Golovkin why wasn't he able to corner him or back him into the ropes?
    I could be wrong but I think Alvarez was the only guy to get backed into the ropes.
    The same idiots who claim they know boxing dont know the difference between literally walking backwards to avoid contact and fighting on the outside.

    Canelo literally circled the ring so many times in the first fight that he would have won the indy 500.

    His back touched the ropes tons of times and all those body punches? Barely slowed GGG down at all.

    Then GGG/Abel got into Canelos head. Canelo got roasted hella bad by mexican media with everyone talking him down and saying he was afraid. Then for the first time in his career he gets popped for PEDs. Coincidence?

    Then in the rematch Canelo literally changes styles to prove himself when he didnt need to. It's no different than when Duran got into SRLs head and forced him to fight a fight. Oh. Give him props for fighting head to head sure. GGG didnt expect him to fight that way. No one did. So what did GGG do?

    Same **** SRL did. Boxed on the outside which imo was pretty amazing considered I didnt think he could. Not only was he slipping and moving but he displayed some pretty damn good defense I didnt think he had.

    Canell fans claim Canelo beat GGG with two different styles but I beg a differ. GGG beat Canelo with 2 different styles. GGG dropped abel because he saw how limited Abel was. Abels idea of boxing is just go forward and smash.

    He went so far to tell GGG he was losing when literally at that point the fight was even.

    Ask everyone who won these fights and for both fights the MAJORITY have GGG for the 1st one and GGG/draw for the second one.

    The people who claim Canelo outright won either are so far and few between

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      #72
      Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
      The same idiots who claim they know boxing dont know the difference between literally walking backwards to avoid contact and fighting on the outside.

      Canelo literally circled the ring so many times in the first fight that he would have won the indy 500.

      His back touched the ropes tons of times and all those body punches? Barely slowed GGG down at all.

      Then GGG/Abel got into Canelos head. Canelo got roasted hella bad by mexican media with everyone talking him down and saying he was afraid. Then for the first time in his career he gets popped for PEDs. Coincidence?

      Then in the rematch Canelo literally changes styles to prove himself when he didnt need to. It's no different than when Duran got into SRLs head and forced him to fight a fight. Oh. Give him props for fighting head to head sure. GGG didnt expect him to fight that way. No one did. So what did GGG do?

      Same **** SRL did. Boxed on the outside which imo was pretty amazing considered I didnt think he could. Not only was he slipping and moving but he displayed some pretty damn good defense I didnt think he had.

      Canell fans claim Canelo beat GGG with two different styles but I beg a differ. GGG beat Canelo with 2 different styles. GGG dropped abel because he saw how limited Abel was. Abels idea of boxing is just go forward and smash.

      He went so far to tell GGG he was losing when literally at that point the fight was even.

      Ask everyone who won these fights and for both fights the MAJORITY have GGG for the 1st one and GGG/draw for the second one.

      The people who claim Canelo outright won either are so far and few between
      Good points. I agree. I think because Alvarez put on a better performance in the 2nd fight, people gave him more credit than he deserved. Golovkin out boxed him. GGG owned the center of the ring and kept Alvarez on the end of his jab all nite. Alvarez never hurt GGG but Golovkin hurt Canelo in the 10th.
      I thought the 2nd fight was a robbery because how does the champ lose his titles because 2 judges say he lost the 12th round? I had the fights for GGG 8-4, 7-5.
      Alvarez refusing a 3rd fight says it all.

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        #73
        Canelo needs to drop these clowns as soon as possible and go sign with the PBC. Someone who would have his best interest at heart.

        Oscar is now only looking after his own ass after promising DAZN; Fools gold that he will deliver a third fight between Canelo and Golovkin which he never had any intentions of doing. Just in order to secure his own separate and independent deal with DAZN.

        In addition, when you couple that with the fact, that Canelo was left hanging in the wind about his next mandatory defense and was stripped of a title belt that he just recently won; Was a complete dereliction of duty by Golden Boy and the icing on the cake for him.

        What makes it even worse is that Oscar chose to takes sides with his matchmaker over his golden goose, meal ticket and cash cow Canelo Alvarez publicly. I've never seen any shit like this before.

        To throw his lottery ticket under the bus like that by public humiliating him is just unheard of. It's very strange to say the least. I believe that Oscar deliberately and secretly blindsided Canelo by undermining him with DAZN by having him stripped of his IBF title.

        Obviously, Oscar no longer has Canelo's best interest at heart. He's jealous because DAZN went out of their way to sign an exclusive contract deal with Saul Alvarez which did not include him. De La Hoya had to sign his own an independent deal with DAZN so now he and Alvarez are rivals.

        By default DAZN is now Canelo's promoter and not Oscar De La Hoya. Therefore, they get to decide which fights they choose to stream and which opponents they want Canelo to fight, since they are the ones who are paying him $365mil.

        The stripping Canelo's IBF title was an obvious attempt by DAZN; In concert and association with Golden Boy Promotions to punish Ginger for refusing to voluntarily fight Gennady Golovkin for a third time. Therefore, Oscar sold him out.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Sheikh
          canelo is being a little b*tch. Why do all of this to avoid GGG. he cant make this much money and press and media attention fighting anyone else and its a winnable fight.
          He’s fought GGG twice already. You really gonna try and claim Canelo is scared of GGG? He doesn’t want to give GGG the payday.

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            #75
            Originally posted by ruedboy
            Good points. I agree. I think because Alvarez put on a better performance in the 2nd fight, people gave him more credit than he deserved. Golovkin out boxed him. GGG owned the center of the ring and kept Alvarez on the end of his jab all nite. Alvarez never hurt GGG but Golovkin hurt Canelo in the 10th.
            I thought the 2nd fight was a robbery because how does the champ lose his titles because 2 judges say he lost the 12th round? I had the fights for GGG 8-4, 7-5.
            Alvarez refusing a 3rd fight says it all.
            I also scored the fights 8-4 GGG and 7-5 GGG

            Canelo came to fight the 2nd time around and won the narrative. That's why people say he won. Listen to his fan boys, first thing out of their mouth is that he Mexican styled GGG. Fighting mexican style means nothing.

            As good as Canelo is GGG is a bad match up for him and he knows it. Everyone knows it. Canelo doesnt have the power to KO GGG and his stamina is what let's him down. GGG is a high volume puncher who is relentless. The first fight he didnt let Canelo breathe. The 2nd fight Canelo loaded up on PEDs to give him the boost he needed and still couldnt pull ahead. Canelo fans be like Canelo slaughtered GGG with two 115-113 cards and a draw. Thats what they call a slaughter right?

            As he gets older looks like hes getting worse stamina wise. He gassed out badly against Jacob's who was throwing barely anything at him. People really believe that GGG who picked a trainer specifically so he could through more punches and punches in bunches will do worse?

            It's just a battle of what gives first and Canelo is doing everything in his power to age GGG even more than he did before. Canelos stamina vs GGGs age. That is the battle.

            And for anyone who knows, when you run out of gas that's when you get KTFO. Canelo doesnt want that.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
              He’s fought GGG twice already. You really gonna try and claim Canelo is scared of GGG? He doesn’t want to give GGG the payday.
              How can Canelo refuse GGG a payday when GGG has his own contract with DAZN?

              GGG will get paid no matter what.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                The same idiots who claim they know boxing dont know the difference between literally walking backwards to avoid contact and fighting on the outside.

                Canelo literally circled the ring so many times in the first fight that he would have won the indy 500.

                His back touched the ropes tons of times and all those body punches? Barely slowed GGG down at all.

                Then GGG/Abel got into Canelos head. Canelo got roasted hella bad by mexican media with everyone talking him down and saying he was afraid. Then for the first time in his career he gets popped for PEDs. Coincidence?

                Then in the rematch Canelo literally changes styles to prove himself when he didnt need to. It's no different than when Duran got into SRLs head and forced him to fight a fight. Oh. Give him props for fighting head to head sure. GGG didnt expect him to fight that way. No one did. So what did GGG do?

                Same **** SRL did. Boxed on the outside which imo was pretty amazing considered I didnt think he could. Not only was he slipping and moving but he displayed some pretty damn good defense I didnt think he had.

                Canell fans claim Canelo beat GGG with two different styles but I beg a differ. GGG beat Canelo with 2 different styles. GGG dropped abel because he saw how limited Abel was. Abels idea of boxing is just go forward and smash.

                He went so far to tell GGG he was losing when literally at that point the fight was even.

                Ask everyone who won these fights and for both fights the MAJORITY have GGG for the 1st one and GGG/draw for the second one.

                The people who claim Canelo outright won either are so far and few between
                Excellent post. That's the truth..

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                  How can Canelo refuse GGG a payday when GGG has his own contract with DAZN?

                  GGG will get paid no matter what.
                  Well tell that to Chris Mannix who’s reporting that on his podcast.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    DAZN did not deposit 1/3 of a billion dollars in canelos bank account...he doesnt have it yet and thats a max number that he can reach...

                    the fact that you think that canelo went into deep waters and that you say you dont like him tell the whole story..im not even a canelo fan but at least he has my respect....he wasnt into deep waters....he didnt even have to fight like that...he did so because it was asked and he wanted to deliver for the fans...and he has balls that golovkin couldnt even fathom(you know the guy that ran from a featherfisted ward at 168 when ran his mouth about anyone from 154-168 yet didnt make one meaningful fight at 154-168 and his only meaninfgul fights are canelo)......and he was never in deep waters...thats your imagination running wild.....
                    I don’t like Canelo because of the favouritism he receives from thenpowers that be , Always getting generous scorecards , winning fights he didn’t deserve , His attitude of self entitlement. But I’ve always given Canelo props for his desire to be great and willingness to fight anybody. Well I think we can all admit his willingness to fight anyone isn’t true anymore because he’s doing all he can not to go another 12 rounds with Golovkin

                    I obviously can’t convince you that Canelo has to dig deep / deeper then he’s ever had To and doesn’t seem to want to go there again. I don’t think you can say other wise when your facing Golovkin who applies non stop pressure & hits like a mule , even his jabs have shook fighters to their bones , but yeah Canelos Different it was a walk in the park , so easy in fact that he’s avoiding a trilogy fight at all costs surely proves how easy it was for him

                    F.uck stop with the played out scared to fight Ward narrative.
                    Golovkin was chasing a Canelo fight a fight that paid 10x more and considered a easier fight, It’s no different then Ward trying to bait Golovkin instead of heading straight to Kovalev right away because Golovkin would have paid more ( Kovalev was never a draw) and would be considered a easier fight.

                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    it is perfectly understandable, and reasonable, that Canelo is ignoring Golovkin simply because he does not like him

                    I don't like Bullshltkin either

                    nobody likes liars, why would Canelo allow him to profit ?
                    Yeah he hates Golovkin so much that Canelos Doing all he can not to punch him in the face , seems legit

                    Let’s be honest You’d consider anything a reasonable excuse from Canelo.

                    So you don’t like liars but will support a cheater in Canelo , Cool . I mean that makes perfect sense

                    Originally posted by QballLobo
                    Not sure what fight you watched. GGG didn’t pressure him in the second fight. Canelo stood toe to toe. Even dared GGG to come at him on the ropes but he got gunshy after eating some good counters. Canelo did exactly what team GGG said he wouldn’t do and was scared to do. We heard for months that if Canelo trades with GGG he’s going to sleep. Didn’t happen.
                    GGG was the schoolyard bully that got hit in the mouth and had no answer.
                    Yeah sure buds / Good revisionist history / the schoolyard bully that according to the vast majority won both fights I guess that what you consider having no answer / We both know if Canelo wasn’t Canelo a fighter who gets every conceivable Break and favourable scoring he’d have lost both fights

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      I don’t like Canelo because of the favouritism he receives from thenpowers that be , Always getting generous scorecards , winning fights he didn’t deserve , His attitude of self entitlement. But I’ve always given Canelo props for his desire to be great and willingness to fight anybody. Well I think we can all admit his willingness to fight anyone isn’t true anymore because he’s doing all he can not to go another 12 rounds with Golovkin

                      I obviously can’t convince you that Canelo has to dig deep / deeper then he’s ever had To and doesn’t seem to want to go there again. I don’t think you can say other wise when your facing Golovkin who applies non stop pressure & hits like a mule , even his jabs have shook fighters to their bones , but yeah Canelos Different it was a walk in the park , so easy in fact that he’s avoiding a trilogy fight at all costs surely proves how easy it was for him

                      F.uck stop with the played out scared to fight Ward narrative.
                      Golovkin was chasing a Canelo fight a fight that paid 10x more and considered a easier fight, It’s no different then Ward trying to bait Golovkin instead of heading straight to Kovalev right away because Golovkin would have paid more ( Kovalev was never a draw) and would be considered a easier fight.



                      Yeah he hates Golovkin so much that Canelos Doing all he can not to punch him in the face , seems legit

                      Let’s be honest You’d consider anything a reasonable excuse from Canelo.

                      So you don’t like liars but will support a cheater in Canelo , Cool . I mean that makes perfect sense



                      Yeah sure buds / Good revisionist history / the schoolyard bully that according to the vast majority won both fights I guess that what you consider having no answer / We both know if Canelo wasn’t Canelo a fighter who gets every conceivable Break and favourable scoring he’d have lost both fights
                      how much more would have golovkin really paid over kovalev if you think about it? you act like golovkin is a big sell without canelo...he isnt

                      chasing canelo fight? well yeah...but ward contacted golovkin in 2015 about fighting in 2016....who did golovkin fight in 2016 and when did golovkin actually get the canelo fight? lolol..think about it

                      what youre saying is "he was afraid hed lose to ward" right?!?! yup....wow what a legend that golovkin is...afraid of a challenge so he fights D level dom wade and a welterweight....unreal.....and you have the nerve to throw a jab at ward who moved up to face a unbeaten p4p killer?!?!?! LOL

                      you need help

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