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  • icha
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    #101
    Originally posted by Socialtwinkie

    name a fight that would be bigger in popularity and financial success than Canelo vs GGG3

    I'll wait on that answer
    right now none, kovalev fights gets close and munguia in the future could be even bigger, but like i said before canelo is already making 35 mil per fight, fighting ggg will bring a bit more but if you think that ggg means as much for canelo as it is the other way then you are delusional... if this was a ppv maybe the 3rd fight would have already happened, but with dazn's current model it really isnt that much of a difference for canelo... it is for dazn that i know...

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    • jimisawesome
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      #102
      Originally posted by Socialtwinkie

      name a fight that would be bigger in popularity and financial success than Canelo vs GGG3

      I'll wait on that answer
      Canelo Pac and Canelo Jacobs easily are bigger fights. The Pac fight will never happen but it would be bigger and Jacobs would be ****** not to ask for 40 or 50 million with the way DAZN burns money.

      If Canelo was on the Fox platform I think they could build another 4 or 5 fights into a million-plus with using NFL games to build off of.

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      • R-Hand Southpaw
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        #103
        Originally posted by icha
        right now none, kovalev fights gets close and munguia in the future could be even bigger, but like i said before canelo is already making 35 mil per fight, fighting ggg will bring a bit more but if you think that ggg means as much for canelo as it is the other way then you are delusional... if this was a ppv maybe the 3rd fight would have already happened, but with dazn's current model it really isnt that much of a difference for canelo... it is for dazn that i know...
        You see. You gave the answer but right after giving it tried to steer it away from the truth. Right now like I said there is no fight bigger than GGG. Truth. Fact. Whatever you want to call it.

        On the other hand you could claim that Kovalev is a "big fight" or so is Munguia but that's not the truth. Part of what makes the GGG match up more popular and more profitable is that it already has an established storyline with bad blood. You can sell that to anyone.

        Now you're gonna tell me that Canelo/Kovalev is more profitable or popular when 1, kovalev could still lose before that happens, 2, theres no built in storyline, 3. A few months ago Canelo himself said hes too small for 175, 4, Kovalev is past it and we all know it. 5, they arent even in the same weight class.

        And neither is Munguia. Dude is still at 154 and a GBP name. After Canelo burns that bridge you still think GBP is gonna feed Munguia to Canelo?

        And Canelo is somehow not gonna get GGG another payday when he could still lose out on his own payday AGAIN?

        You guys are same guys who complain guys wont fight for peanuts because they're not the A side but argue that Canelo should just not fight this year because GGG doesnt deserve a pay day which also means he isnt getting one either?

        He isnt fighting anyone he should be fighting. Charlo, Derevychanko, Andrade, GGG. Nope.

        35 million to fight GGG again in a fight he believes he and his fans think he won easy. Who turns that down?

        Originally posted by jimisawesome
        Canelo Pac and Canelo Jacobs easily are bigger fights. The Pac fight will never happen but it would be bigger and Jacobs would be ****** not to ask for 40 or 50 million with the way DAZN burns money.

        If Canelo was on the Fox platform I think they could build another 4 or 5 fights into a million-plus with using NFL games to build off of.
        You do know Canelo/Jacob's already happened right and the fight was a complete disappointment and a snooze fest with no one willing to engage.

        And pac would NEVER happen so in the end you have still offered ZERO alternatives

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        • icha
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          #104
          Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
          You see. You gave the answer but right after giving it tried to steer it away from the truth. Right now like I said there is no fight bigger than GGG. Truth. Fact. Whatever you want to call it.

          On the other hand you could claim that Kovalev is a "big fight" or so is Munguia but that's not the truth. Part of what makes the GGG match up more popular and more profitable is that it already has an established storyline with bad blood. You can sell that to anyone.

          Now you're gonna tell me that Canelo/Kovalev is more profitable or popular when 1, kovalev could still lose before that happens, 2, theres no built in storyline, 3. A few months ago Canelo himself said hes too small for 175, 4, Kovalev is past it and we all know it. 5, they arent even in the same weight class.

          And neither is Munguia. Dude is still at 154 and a GBP name. After Canelo burns that bridge you still think GBP is gonna feed Munguia to Canelo?

          And Canelo is somehow not gonna get GGG another payday when he could still lose out on his own payday AGAIN?

          You guys are same guys who complain guys wont fight for peanuts because they're not the A side but argue that Canelo should just not fight this year because GGG doesnt deserve a pay day which also means he isnt getting one either?

          He isnt fighting anyone he should be fighting. Charlo, Derevychanko, Andrade, GGG. Nope.

          35 million to fight GGG again in a fight he believes he and his fans think he won easy. Who turns that down?



          You do know Canelo/Jacob's already happened right and the fight was a complete disappointment and a snooze fest with no one willing to engage.

          And pac would NEVER happen so in the end you have still offered ZERO alternatives
          reading comprehension isnt your thing, but anyways just keep in mind that canelo already gave cotto a middle finger and left a negotiation table only to fight kirkland instead, he didnt hesitate to do it to a smaller name in ggg, he fought cotto later on just as i think he will do it with ggg, not fighting ggg next it wont hurt canelos pockets as the fight will eventually happen and it could be even bigger if its for all the marbles as canelo initially wanted...

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            #105
            Originally posted by icha
            reading comprehension isnt your thing, but anyways just keep in mind that canelo already gave cotto a middle finger and left a negotiation table only to fight kirkland instead, he didnt hesitate to do it to a smaller name in ggg, he fought cotto later on just as i think he will do it with ggg, not fighting ggg next it wont hurt canelos pockets as the fight will eventually happen and it could be even bigger if its for all the marbles as canelo initially wanted...
            You're the guy who cant read it comprehend. I asked for a name now and you gave me later.

            And dude. We all already KNOW Canelo will walk away because he has the biggest leverage against GGG and that is age

            DAZN wants the fight now and so does everyone else specifically for that reason. It took you till now to comprehend that?

            That is exactly why everyone is calling this a duck because Canelo will wait GGG out as long as humanly possible before making the fight AGAINbecause GGG at 35 and 36 was plenty enough for Canelo. He wants an easier fight against an older opponent.

            Bro. You're so good at comprehension can you comprehend that?

            Canelo doesnt want to give GGG a payday is the most pathetic excuse ever given in boxing as to why not to fight someone.

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            • icha
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              #106
              Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
              You're the guy who cant read it comprehend. I asked for a name now and you gave me a letter.
              i clearly said none, but you couldnt read that, you talk about letters when you are the one writting books, could have gone thru a lot of topics yesterday in every one of your posts, but is weekend and my time is limited ...

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                #107
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                it is perfectly understandable, and reasonable, that Canelo is ignoring Golovkin simply because he does not like him

                I don't like Bullshltkin either

                nobody likes liars, why would Canelo allow him to profit ?
                Because that’s his job.

                Because money, reputation, public relations, contracts, business relationships, etc, etc.

                I own a business and have some clients that I don’t personally like much (luckily not many) but that doesn’t stop me or my staff working with them especially if contracts were already signed. To do otherwise is madness and ego.

                Canelo is a great fighter but he may not be the best boss.

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  You realize Canelo fought Golovkin at 35 a age when every boxer is on the slide which is Canelos M.O. when he fights HOFers , Canelo has one of the best chins in the sport , No one was saying 2 rounds , I’ll admit I thought Golovkin would win and hurt Canelo but with a chin like Canelo or Golovkin you can’t reasonably expect they’ll get Kod. Both seem like the type you’d need a bat with nails in it , maybe a gun to knock either one down.

                  With his Constant Pressure No one ever said Golovkin would be fighting at 40+/ Stop making sh.it up / With his style it’s actually suprising he’s lasted this long. How many Constant Pressure Hard Hitting Fighters are near the top at 35+ / That Type Of style doesn’t age well , I can’t even think of the last fighter who had that style who was near the top of their division at 35+ years of age.

                  Talk about Revisionist History



                  You realize Canelo dropped the Belt in Early 2016 instead of fighting Golovkin like the WBC ordered.

                  How was he supposed to know Canelo would vacate and wait for him to age instead of fighting Golovkin when first ordered.

                  Is that Direct enough for you
                  With no side stepping. Insisting Ward was ever a option and acting like Golovkin was avoiding him is just Ignorant to the facts and timing of everything
                  no...there is no ignorance...im aware of what canelo did...well aware...

                  but you cant tell me a fighter like golovkin, who has a team around him, didnt have anyone around him who didnt think it was a possibility canelo was going to stall and drop the belt

                  not once, when canelo and cotto were playing catchweight with the belt, did golovkin even consider doing a catchweight....

                  canelo didnt wait for golovkin to age...he waited till he was comfortable at full 160 and ready to fight legit MWs who had spent their whole careers there

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by monkeyboy
                    Because that’s his job.

                    Because money, reputation, public relations, contracts, business relationships, etc, etc.

                    I own a business and have some clients that I don’t personally like much (luckily not many) but that doesn’t stop me or my staff working with them especially if contracts were already signed. To do otherwise is madness and ego.

                    Canelo is a great fighter but he may not be the best boss.



                    rubbish

                    you may dislike your customers... but, you NEED them

                    that is how it is... for you

                    Canelo HATES Golovkin, and he does not need him one little bit

                    HUGE diff there

                    I do not believe that Golovkin brings one single thing to the table

                    he refused to fight Andrade/Charlo for a title... he does not have a significant fanbase... he has done nothing to whet the fans appetite for a trilogy... Canelo will make the same money regardless who he fights, Golovkin needs Canelo for another payday... and Golovkin is a poor sportsman who will only make excuses when Canelo beats him again

                    they called Canelo a runner, and demanded that he stand fight like a Mexican..... so after talking all that smack, Golovkin let his fans down when he was unwilling to trade with Canelo..... the only guy from Team Bullshlt who gave Canelo any credit, was Sanchez..... but, he is gone

                    there is literally no reason for Canelo to fight him..... because unlike the dopey casuals simply who just see what they want to see, Canelo knows that he won the rematch

                    he has moved on..... don't know why you guys find that a bitter pill to swallow

                    and seriously, g-fans after talking all that rubbish for years..... he scared doe, Canelo will never have the balls to fight Golovkin doe..... if he does, he will get KTFO doe..... you would think that g-fans would have enough class to give Canelo his props

                    but no

                    there is literally nothing in that fight for Canelo..... props to him for sticking it to Golovkin and his whiney disrespectful fanbase

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      no...there is no ignorance...im aware of what canelo did...well aware...

                      but you cant tell me a fighter like golovkin, who has a team around him, didnt have anyone around him who didnt think it was a possibility canelo was going to stall and drop the belt

                      not once, when canelo and cotto were playing catchweight with the belt, did golovkin even consider doing a catchweight....

                      canelo didnt wait for golovkin to age...he waited till he was comfortable at full 160 and ready to fight legit MWs who had spent their whole careers there




                      exactly !

                      casual-fans are dogshlt

                      only in La La land is the HUGE a-side superstar required to hand the unproven hypejob any type of advantage

                      when Mr " anyone from 154-168 " crawled up his own ass and shat the bed over weight..... he resigned himself to waiting until Canelo was ready to move up..... and guess what, Canelo fought Bullshltkin in his very first fight at middleweight

                      there is literally nothing for g-strings to cry about

                      the g-strings are crying because they wanted Hypekin to have an advantage

                      get this.....

                      in a 309 page thread (not kidding)..... shltty casual-fans killed themselves trying to insist that 155 Canelo was a genuine middleweight

                      I told them all Canelo will be much better/stronger when he moves up to 160, and I told them that it would take a couple of fights to adapt and they would see a great performance from Canelo loooool

                      g-strings....

                      " Canelo is killing himself to make 155, to avoid Golovkin "

                      but then they also said.....

                      " Canelo will not be any better at 160 "

                      how could both of those statements be true ?

                      Golovkin got what he wanted, and he got what he deserved..... Canelo proved who is the real Mexican..... but still, they cry

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