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  • Mammoth
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    #41
    Originally posted by j0zef
    They both kind of look silly. Golden Boy apparently dropping the ball on the IBF negotiations, and Canelo with the diva crap he's pulling .
    And all the ***** fans here in love with the drama, they look silly too.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #42
      Originally posted by deanrw
      I bet Al Haymon already has two contracts drafted up for Canelo and KingRY. Right now he is rubbing his hands together evil laughing like Mr. Burns. Oscar is about to get burned once again LMAO
      jesus...imagine that?!?!?

      years ago oscars company had a great relationship with haymon when schaefer was running things... it was perfect....and oscar had to come ruin and stick his nose for no reason....it would be befitting if al somehow snatched those two guys and put a nail in golden boy

      GB was thriving when schaefer was running it and working with al....but ole oscar man he couldnt take it! lol

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        #43
        "Omg our Poor lil Nelo has it bad."

        Boo hoo. Poor rich bastard.....

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          #44
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          jesus...imagine that?!?!?

          years ago oscars company had a great relationship with haymon when schaefer was running things... it was perfect....and oscar had to come ruin and stick his nose for no reason....it would be befitting if al somehow snatched those two guys and put a nail in golden boy

          GB was thriving when schaefer was running it and working with al....but ole oscar man he couldnt take it! lol

          Trust me on this. Both Canelo and Kingry share Reynoso now. Both are suddenly very unhappy. Someone is whispering into their ears and I guarantee it is Al about to pull another coup!

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          • KTFOKING
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            #45
            Canelo already has his deal with DAZN, he wouldn't need Haymon, especially if he leaves GBP. He's going to need a guy out in front of cameras promoting him. Schaefer fits that bill better.

            Obviously different for Garcia if he wants to leave GBP.

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              #46
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              Calls it Ducking, When Golovkin chose a lay up In Vanes to make sure he didn’t lose out on the Lottery ticket that was the Golovkin/ Canelo 2 fight instead of fighting a Bugger Challenge for the same $ in Devrechenko. Most likely fights him next now he’s ducking Andrade / Charlo

              But when you give up your self proclaimed Date / Willing to take less $ / Unhappy with Company that writes your cheque’s because they want what’s best for their business / Unhappy and May Possibly stop doing business with your long term promoter because they all want you to fight Golovkin again and your doing everything in your power to avoid the fight and will take less $ and burn any relationship to make sure it doesn’t happen somehow isn’t considered ducking



              no !

              Canelo gave up his date because he could not fight KOVALEV

              FACT: dates are totally meaningless..... it is FAR better to move the date, and select a good opponent..... than blindly stick to a date, and fight a shlt opponent

              Golovkin was an utter fool for using someone else's date as an excuse to fight yet another no-hoper..... rather than defer the date for one month to participate in a unification fight with Saunders

              that date meant absolutely nothing to him..... you guys are total mugs for accepting that ridiculous excuse

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              • R_Walken
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                #47
                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                Dude, Canelo apparently TOLD GBP not to guarantee the trilogy and they did anyways. How don't you see a problem with this? How are you going to just look past that? Canelo IS the entity here and he is the BUSINESS here. You don't sign anything on his behalf without his approval PERIOD.
                I’d be shocked if GB/Oscar are that ******ed to guarantee Canelo a trilogy fight without some sort of consent : If they are then I can’t defend that but it still doesn’t change that Canelo is wack and is unwilling to do what’s best for his business partners and unwilling to have a third fight


                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                NOOOOOOOOOO..absolutely NOT

                me saying "i dont care how you scored the first fight" is not me admitting golovkin won....its simply me saying i dont care how you scored it because either side could make a case...i think it was that close...and i wouldnt admonish either side for making a case as i could see both sides....you are reaching severly by saying its me admitting....now that ive made that clear

                whether or not canelo had to "dig deep" doesnt mean he was hurt or rocked...and we certainly know he was dropped...digging deep means he worked hard...maybe harder than he ever has....and i wont disagree with you....he did have to dig deep...and you know what? its because he gave golovkin the exact fight golovkin asked for....and that takes balls....you know golovkin asked him to fight that way right? and he said "ok here you go" and performed well doing...thats big balls to go out of your comfort zone and fight a guy everyone thinks is a killer in a manner thats more befitting of the opponent...so yeah maybe he worked hard for it and had to dig deep...but i admire that and it showed his true grit more than anything...he didnt have to fight that way...he did so do defend his rep and honor

                you can point to whatever stats you want how people scored the fight...60-40 or whatever...doesnt matter to me....i saw what i saw watching the fight...i saw tons of reputable fighters, trainers etc saying canelo won...and i saw golovkins own trainer give canelo his props and basically admit he won....i dont need crap stats from what i saw in the fight and read from fighters, trainers etc....

                canelo had displayed his grit and his mettle...and his attitude to fight anyone...and even on their "terms"(style)

                he fears nothing golovkin has in the ring....this is obviously personal
                Doubt the it’s personal excuse

                Canelo is a Fighter and fought Golovkin 2x , So he isn’t scared , but he definitely doesn’t want to have to go back and dig deep like he did in the second fight and probably isn’t confident he even won the second fight.

                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                no !

                Canelo gave up his date because he could not fight KOVALEV

                FACT: dates are totally meaningless..... it is FAR better to move the date, and select a good opponent..... than blindly stick to a date, and fight a shlt opponent

                Golovkin was an utter fool for using someone else's date as an excuse to fight yet another no-hoper..... rather than defer the date for one month to participate in a unification fight with Saunders

                that date meant absolutely nothing to him..... you guys are total mugs for accepting that ridiculous excuse
                Please

                Canelo couldn’t beat Mayweather and literally announced as soon as Mayweather retired that he was the rightful heir to those dates

                Now he’s getting pushed off them and willing to take less $ just so he doesn’t have agree to fight Golovkin

                Yeah Golovkin in the wrong because he was training for a fight on a particular date & his opponet popped hot so he decided to stick with the date. Yeah fight Saunders in June / July and lose out on the lotto ticket that was the Canelo rematch. I’m sure you’d do that.

                Funny how in the first paragraph you state dates are completely meaningless then in the next paragraph state Golovkin should have moved off Canelos “meaningless “ date. You see the BS you just wrote right , Can’t have it both ways , You and I know Canelo feels he deserves those dates and you can think it was Kovalev who already had a Yarde fight almost wrapped up as the reason abut we know that isn’t the truth. His partners ( Dazn ) wanted a Golovkin fight and Canelo has proven hell do anything he can not to fight him a third time.

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                • The Problem Child
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                  #48
                  Hehehe you have no idea how happy this makes me. Karma always prevails. Burn to the fn ground \m/

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    I'm sure Canelo despises GGG for other reasons, but he's for sure not liking the idea of fighting GGG because his promoter went behind his back promising DAZN the match up for September.

                    GBP just f'd up........in a big way. No other way around it. Now, this may eventually pass over and they can go on with their business like nothing happened. But whatever decision Canelo makes here in terms of sticking with or buying out his GBP contract would be warranted.
                    Definitely seems to be the case, if all the reports are true it appears to be GBP that fked up here, in fact they absolutely fked some things up just by the IBF stripping.

                    Don't understand the people blaming dazn in this though, apparently they have signed contracts with GGG and GBP for the third fight, I doubt they would know GBP did it without Canelo's knowledge.

                    Look at it from dazn's perspective, it will be a huge fight, between guys they have paid almost half a billion dollars to and apparently have signed contracts from both sides, obviously they have good reason to expect it to happen.

                    I can also somewhat understand it from Canelo's perspective at least partially, your promoter is signing deals behind your back, without your knowledge. You're the biggest name in boxing and you are being told you have to fight someone not by a sanctioning body but because your promoter is doing shady business behind your back?

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      I’d be shocked if GB/Oscar are that ******ed to guarantee Canelo a trilogy fight without some sort of consent : If they are then I can’t defend that but it still doesn’t change that Canelo is wack and is unwilling to do what’s best for his business partners and unwilling to have a third fight




                      Doubt the it’s personal excuse

                      Canelo is a Fighter and fought Golovkin 2x , So he isn’t scared , but he definitely doesn’t want to have to go back and dig deep like he did in the second fight and probably isn’t confident he even won the second fight.



                      Please

                      Canelo couldn’t beat Mayweather and literally announced as soon as Mayweather retired that he was the rightful heir to those dates

                      Now he’s getting pushed off them and willing to take less $ just so he doesn’t have agree to fight Golovkin

                      Yeah Golovkin in the wrong because he was training for a fight on a particular date & his opponet popped hot so he decided to stick with the date. Yeah fight Saunders in June / July and lose out on the lotto ticket that was the Canelo rematch. I’m sure you’d do that.

                      Funny how in the first paragraph you state dates are completely meaningless then in the next paragraph state Golovkin should have moved off Canelos “meaningless “ date. You see the BS you just wrote right , Can’t have it both ways , You and I know Canelo feels he deserves those dates and you can think it was Kovalev who already had a Yarde fight almost wrapped up as the reason abut we know that isn’t the truth. His partners ( Dazn ) wanted a Golovkin fight and Canelo has proven hell do anything he can not to fight him a third time.
                      if you agree he isnt scared what really is the point that you are trying to make? youre telling me he isnt scared but basically then telling me you think hes scared...idgi

                      i guarantee canelo feels like he won the 2nd fight with more conviction than he believes he deserved a draw in the 1st fight...i gurantee that.....what scares guys about digging deep? wilder was outboxed for much of his fight with fury....he had to dig deep mentally....do you think hes scared to rematch guys? how many guys had to dig deep and had no qualms with a rematch ?

                      your excuse has no real merit or anything to back it up logically

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