Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Pacquiao, Mayweather, Stevenson, More

[john l]

Great post, and I agree Floyd probably wins that fight. Lara did a good job with Paul also but he was winding down in his career. Just wish we could have seen it when it was viable.

I mentioned it because it’s the only time I truly saw Floyd duck a fighter. He wouldn’t even mention Paul’s name. But maybe that was to keep him Paul viable for Haymon? Just not sure what happened there?

Thx I think them not fighting just came down to the stars not aligning its not like Paul was ever PFP fighter who people were screaming for. ODLH whether your a fan or not fought a lot of tough fighters, some he did not have to, but he still missed Forrest and Wright and couple others. The way to beat Paul was to outbox him and after seeing Quintana and Lara outbox him I think Floyd beats him pretty clear. Nothing against Paul who was a real fighter but he had probs with guys who boxed him. Also if I remember right both them fights came before he got KOed by SM so I think he was still in prime.

[Fire4231]

Thx I think them not fighting just came down to the stars not aligning its not like Paul was ever PFP fighter who people were screaming for. ODLH whether your a fan or not fought a lot of tough fighters, some he did not have to, but he still missed Forrest and Wright and couple others. The way to beat Paul was to outbox him and after seeing Quintana and Lara outbox him I think Floyd beats him pretty clear. Nothing against Paul who was a real fighter but he had probs with guys who boxed him. Also if I remember right both them fights came before he got KOed by SM so I think he was still in prime.

Paul was a serious threat bro, look at the scalps... He losses to Quintana (questionable) and then knocked him out, beat Cintron, beat Margarito during the hand wrap era, beat Winky Wright, beat Sergio Martinez before being KO’d later on, whether we agree with the judges he has a win over Lara.

Paul was a beast however his style was so offensive his prime was never going to last. I checked, Lara was after the Martinez KO. So was the Ishida win. Unfortunately we know how the story ends.

[JuniorTorres720]

150 was the catchweight

Thanks man. I had to recheck that.

[Walexhris]

no, I don't

if there was only one champion, like back in the day..... Thurman would just be a mid-level welter who struggled since returning from injury/inactivity

there is literally nothing special about that win

that win did not move Manny's needle much at all, nor did it move Mayweather's needle

at the level Pac/May reside, it takes a REAL achievement to move the needle..... they are surrounded by badasses who have a LOT of credibility/accomplishments..... so no, Thurman does not make the grade

that was a good/very-good win..... not great, or even close

casual-fans go full-ret4rd before/after every Pac fight, just ignore them

FACT: thinking that beating Thurman miraculously catapulted Pacquiao anywhere..... let alone to the GOAT of all time..... is absolute ******ity

Nah....if there was one champion, Thurman won't be regarded as mid-level
Manny didn't even need Thurman to be regarded as an all time great, he already is
He is just below Floyd in my opinion

[Walexhris]

In my opinion Thurman beat porter decisively...I credit porter with being able to give d impression that he is actually doing something
I really dont get when people say that Thurman barely sc****d past porter

[Walexhris]

Thx I think them not fighting just came down to the stars not aligning its not like Paul was ever PFP fighter who people were screaming for. ODLH whether your a fan or not fought a lot of tough fighters, some he did not have to, but he still missed Forrest and Wright and couple others. The way to beat Paul was to outbox him and after seeing Quintana and Lara outbox him I think Floyd beats him pretty clear. Nothing against Paul who was a real fighter but he had probs with guys who boxed him. Also if I remember right both them fights came before he got KOed by SM so I think he was still in prime.

True word..........

[aboutfkntime]

Nah....if there was one champion, Thurman won't be regarded as mid-level
Manny didn't even need Thurman to be regarded as an all time great, he already is
He is just below Floyd in my opinion

Thurman IS mid-level

he is not one of the top welters

I give him NO chance of beating Spence or Crawford

both stop him imo

[john l]

Paul was a serious threat bro, look at the scalps... He losses to Quintana (questionable) and then knocked him out, beat Cintron, beat Margarito during the hand wrap era, beat Winky Wright, beat Sergio Martinez before being KO’d later on, whether we agree with the judges he has a win over Lara.

Paul was a beast however his style was so offensive his prime was never going to last. I checked, Lara was after the Martinez KO. So was the Ishida win. Unfortunately we know how the story ends.

Paul was a very good fighter, just not a PFP type. Your right Lara was after Martinez, so its not quite as impressive, but the win over Wright was after Winky was CLEARLY past it. Also the win over Martinez was debatable I had Paul winning by a point or two, but many did not.Cintron was not all that impressive of a win imo.Yea it was a shame the way his career ended I think his best days were past, but still too bad he can not enjoy his retirement like he deserved.

[john l]

Thurman IS mid-level

he is not one of the top welters

I give him NO chance of beating Spence or Crawford

both stop him imo

I agree Thurman has no chance of beating the top two, but he was a better fighter before the injury and a 100% Thurman gives both a good fight. Would pick Crawford to outpoint him in a completive fight, and Spence to stop him prob to the body after having some probs with Thurman movement. This is a pre injury Thurman, after injury he would not be that competitive imo.

[Fire4231]

Paul was a very good fighter, just not a PFP type. Your right Lara was after Martinez, so its not quite as impressive, but the win over Wright was after Winky was CLEARLY past it. Also the win over Martinez was debatable I had Paul winning by a point or two, but many did not.Cintron was not all that impressive of a win imo.Yea it was a shame the way his career ended I think his best days were past, but still too bad he can not enjoy his retirement like he deserved.

Great points bro not P4P but I hope he still makes the Hall of Fame.

One more thing I met him in Vegas, several years after the accident. He is probably one of the friendliest professional fighters I have met. Still had the same positive spirit. Same big Paul Williams smile. He seems to be doing well despite the circumstances. Great reminiscing.