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  • The plunger man
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    #41
    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
    Err I didnt say I dont rate him, he was a good fighter, I said he was overrated, that's not the same thing...This is going no where. I disagree fundamentally with a lot of what you said and it's clear you feel the same way about what I have said so far
    it’s a forum with varying opinions....mine just happens to be better a argument lol.
    I think Lewis,Tyson ,Holyfield ,bowe can match up to the 70’ heavyweight elite and that’s my opinion.

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      #42
      70’s without question. Everyone pretty well fought everyone. Look at the list of 90’s fighters...how many didn’t fight each other in their primes or at all?

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        #43
        Originally posted by The plunger man
        it’s a forum with varying opinions....mine just happens to be better a argument lol.
        I think Lewis,Tyson ,Holyfield ,bowe can match up to the 70’ heavyweight elite and that’s my opinion.
        Sure what ever you say guy...I think most sensible people would agree that Ali beats any one of those guys you just named.

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          #44
          Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
          Sure what ever you say guy...I think most sensible people would agree that Ali beats any one of those guys you just named.
          Ali would be dwarfed compared with Lewis ...245lb with great skills and Ali 220lb.
          I’m not one of these guys that let nostalgia get in the way of common sense.
          As I said Lewis resume is the best heavyweight of his era and would be a difficult fight for Ali.
          I love Ali and he was great but that was a different era and things evolve

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            #45
            70s was great because it had great fights in the heavyweight division. The 90s was also good but comes second.

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              #46
              70's is the best.

              The 1990's the last great era of heavyweight boxing.

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                #47
                Originally posted by The plunger man
                Ali would be dwarfed compared with Lewis ...245lb with great skills and Ali 220lb.
                I’m not one of these guys that let nostalgia get in the way of common sense.
                As I said Lewis resume is the best heavyweight of his era and would be a difficult fight for Ali.
                I love Ali and he was great but that was a different era and things evolve
                Do you think Anthony Joshua would be 250 pounds if he fought during Marciano's era? We are living in the body builder era with a entirely different culture. During the 70's there was no culture within the heavyweight division that 'Bigger is better' it was the opposite of today. Fighters even in the heavyweight division aimed to be at their lightest, it was a entirely different culture.

                Muhammad Ali without no fancy diet, or gym routine was a solid heavyweight at 215-220 pounds.

                I don't look at fighters such as Tyson Fury and think the game is evolving. 'The man is struggling to stay in condition, he can't fight at a pace and for all of his size? He is physically weak'.

                There is a culture in heavyweight boxing today and even with boxing fans where? 'People are obsessed with size' people seem to nut themselves over super-heavyweights. It is completely bizarre to witness, male boxing fans are worst than women at times.

                It is not about nostalgia or having commonsense, it is about having a broad perspective and understanding how talent and ability can appear. You are a prime example of how the cultural change within the heavyweight division has effected people, to the point where without any serious evaluation? Bigger fighters will be favored or automatically deemed superior.

                Sometimes but not all the time. But of course head to head Lennox Lewis could beat any heavyweight. Lennox Lewis was actually made a better fighter, fighting in the era during a transitional phase 'Because the smaller fighters technically and in many other area's where better fighters, and this environment molded him into a superior big man'.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-30-2019, 10:59 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Do you think Anthony Joshua would be 250 pounds if he fought during Marciano's era? We are living in the body builder era with a entirely different culture. During the 70's there was no culture within the heavyweight division that 'Bigger is better' it was the opposite of today. Fighters even in the heavyweight division aimed to be at their lightest, it was a entirely different culture.

                  Muhammad Ali without no fancy diet, or gym routine was a solid heavyweight at 215-220 pounds.

                  I don't look at fighters such as Tyson Fury and think the game is evolving. 'The man is struggling to stay in condition, he can't fight at a pace and for all of his size? He is physically weak'.

                  There is a culture in heavyweight boxing today and even with boxing fans where? 'People are obsessed with size' people seem to nut themselves over super-heavyweights. It is completely bizarre to witness, male boxing fans are worst than women at times.

                  It is not about nostalgia or having commonsense, it is about having a broad perspective and understanding how talent and ability can appear. You are a prime example of how the cultural change within the heavyweight division has effected people, to the point where without any serious evaluation? Bigger fighters will be favored or automatically deemed superior.

                  Sometimes but not all the time. But of course head to head Lennox Lewis could beat any heavyweight. Lennox Lewis was actually made a better fighter, fighting in the era during a transitional phase 'Because the smaller fighters technically and in many other area's where better fighters, and this environment molded him into a superior big man'.
                  no your right and yes I do believe up to a certain weight your more effective and beyond that it then works against you....my opinion was on Lewis who did start at 232lbs and then grew into a very big and athletic 245lbs.....the Lewis that schooled tua and destroyed Golota and Rachman would be a very hard man to beat and that includes Ali.....Lewis would be great in any era and would become champion no matter if 1920,1950 or 1970.
                  Lewis has it all

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                    #49
                    A lot of nostalgia going on but come'on the 90's run a round romp on the 70's guys. Guys like Quarry would be under Mercer and so forth . Holyfield boxes the breaks over most and Bowe and Lewis ? Sorry but Ali doesn't get by them at their best ,overall the era was loaded with dangerous guys including a still Mike Tyson not exactly a walk in the park along with Foreman,Morrison Ike and Golota very intriguing fighters .

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The plunger man
                      no your right and yes I do believe up to a certain weight your more effective and beyond that it then works against you....my opinion was on Lewis who did start at 232lbs and then grew into a very big and athletic 245lbs.....the Lewis that schooled tua and destroyed Golota and Rachman would be a very hard man to beat and that includes Ali.....Lewis would be great in any era and would become champion no matter if 1920,1950 or 1970.
                      Lewis has it all
                      I was not really debating with you on Lennox Lewis, I agree with your opinion on Lennox Lewis.

                      I was mainly just expressing my observations on super-heavyweights these days. 'It is a cultural change within the game, where people seem to favor them automatically'.

                      A lot of fighters body build there way to higher weights these days. 'Lennox Lewis naturally transitioned up to 245 pounds +'.

                      Also I factor in such things as? If certain fighters where fighting in certain era's, then their entire lifestyle would be altered. 'Lennox Lewis due to his training regime, would be able to fight in any era'.

                      Mike Tyson was a throw back fighter in his style and approach to training, he would adapt to any era in my opinion also.

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