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  • #41
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    The punches you don't see hurt the most. Pacquiao wasn't in a position to brace for impact on the punches JMM caught him with.
    Exactly this. Pacquiao didn't see the shots coming.

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    • #42
      It's because of Juan Manuel Marquez' timing and speed. Against JMM, Pac doesn't have the same natural speed advantage that he normally has when he is challenging a naturally larger, slower and stronger opponent at 147.

      Also, with Marquez he finally had a fighter who was just as fast or even faster than himself; That when some of the punches landed he couldn't see them.

      As opposed to the naturally larger, slower and stronger opponents; Whose punches he can see coming from a mile away.

      It's never been about the force behind the punches that hurts Pacquiao. It's always been about the timing, accuracy and speed behind them that hurts him.

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      • #43
        timing..its all about it

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        • #44
          "timing"...........

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          • #45
            Special how pac still wanted some of Marquez and that he still fought many times after this ko.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
              Memo + talent + PEDS = KO

              Memo = gave Marion Jones multiple gold medals and lost it all coz she got caught.

              HONORABLE MENTION ROID RAGE HELPS.



              The dramatic music, that vid is too much man, yall are full of shít

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                Marquez couldn't drop or stop pac in the first 3 fights either

                Except in the 4th fight...when he officially became Pacs father LMAO

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                • #48
                  JMM was a great counter puncher and Pac's an aggressive come forward fighter.
                  But the real reason was Manny and his team gave Marquez 4 bites at the apple. Eventually Marquez was going to land the perfect counter (and having Herredia as his "nutrition" guy didn't hurt).

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                  • #49
                    Marquez is an all-time great who had 4 fights with Pacquiao before figuring out how to land that bomb on him. And despite that, he was still losing the fight untill that shot. It's just great timing, experience, Ring IQ and knowing your opponent in and out.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Athrun340 View Post
                      Placebo effect. Also I didn't say toradol does nothing. I said its a mild pain reliever. It will take some of the pain away but you're not going to be completely pain free. Let me tell you something, athletes who break their bones definitely don't get toradol in the emergency department. They get strong narcotics such as dilaudid and morphine. Bottom line, it's not a wonder drug. Otherwise, it wouldn't be legal in the NFL or in boxing.

                      Now can it be abused? sure, but make sure you're ready to deal with serious consequences such as GI bleed and kidney failure. Two conditions that will definitely shorten your career as an athlete

                      Yes but the reality in sports medicine is:

                      We know Toradol isnt legal 1 hour before a fight. Especially when mixed with Lidocaine, Bupivacaine and Celstone(24 hour ban). Remember when Pacquiao was caught by NSAC before the Floyd fight?

                      As per commission rules : fighters must enter a contest in their natural state.



                      ...and....Placebo effect? OK.
                      NFL and MBL has come under fire for excessive Toradol use. Not sure why you choose to ignore this.

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