look at those shots again.. the shots pac took from marquez were shots manny didnt see. it was shots manny ran into. manny was a lot more reckless with marquez. with keith, pac got hit flush but it wasnt manny running into those shots like he did against marquez.
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How was Marquez able to drop and stop Pacquiao?
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Marquez knew all of Pacquiao's habits by the 4th fight and he realized that Pac has a tendency to be reckless and throw a surging flurry of shots when he hears the 10 second clapper as the round is coming to an end. He does this move often in order to try to entertain the crowd and impress the judges before the round closes. Pacquiao did it again and, with a little bit of luck, Marquez timed him perfectly because he was expecting it and I'd wager that he even trained for that specific end-of-round habit of Pac's.
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I don't think manny ever committed to a punch the same way again after Marquez clapped him.
It was a beautiful shot that demonstrated the devastating power of collision punching.
Imagine two cars crashing head on. JUAN's right being one vehicle while manny's dome the other.
manny started boxing MUCH more after that KO.
Many fighters were able to land hard rights but manny no longer lunged in like that
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Originally posted by FlatLine View PostMarquez knew all of Pacquiao's habits by the 4th fight and he realized that Pac has a tendency to be reckless and throw a surging flurry of shots when he hears the 10 second knocker as the round is coming to an end. He does this move often in order to try to entertain the crowd and impress the judges before the round closes. Pacquiao did it again and, with a little bit of luck, Marquez timed him perfectly because he was expecting it and I'd wager that he even trained for that specific end-of-round habit of Pac's.
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Originally posted by Dosumpthin View PostYes but the reality in sports medicine is:
We know Toradol isnt legal 1 hour before a fight. Especially when mixed with Lidocaine, Bupivacaine and Celstone(24 hour ban). Remember when Pacquiao was caught by NSAC before the Floyd fight?
As per commission rules : fighters must enter a contest in their natural state.
...and....Placebo effect? OK.
NFL and MBL has come under fire for excessive Toradol use. Not sure why you choose to ignore this.
I'm pretty sure I acknowledged why NFL and MLB are under fire for excessive use of toradol. Like i said it causes gi bleed and kidney failure long term.. thats the reason they're under fire. Its dangerous and the reward is so little. Anyway, youre going off topic. I'm replying about your dumb theory that toradol blocks your pain receptors making you immune to the pain of your opponents punches
toradol has a duration of action of 6-8 hours. The 1 hour limit aint gonna do ****. In addition, its a mild analgesic. How many times am i going to repeat this? go take a fkn advil and ask your neighbor to punch you in the face. Let me know if you feel any pain from his punch afterwards.
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Originally posted by Wizardsh View PostOkay idiot who has no clue about boxing, who probably never watched jmm beside the pac fights. Jmm has 1punch ko power, there is a reason why his nickname is dynamite in Spanish, jmm was koeing fighters his entire career, if you gave jmm the chance to land a timed flush punch it’s over. Pac learned that the hard way. This is to all the idiots who are posting about jmm power just watch his dam fights and you will shut the hell up about his punching power
Also his nickname is dynamita not dynamite you dumb ass.
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Originally posted by Athrun340 View PostGot caught? they were requesting for toradol and it was denied because they requested too late. they did not get caught. i like how youre framing that pacquiao cheated.
There never any requesting ahead of time. That's why NSAC didnt know about it. Nor was there any truth to the imaginary TUE that Bob Arum claims to had have.
FACTS.
I'm pretty sure I acknowledged why NFL and MLB are under fire for excessive use of toradol. Like i said it causes gi bleed and kidney failure long term.. thats the reason they're under fire. Its dangerous and the reward is so little. Anyway, youre going off topic. I'm replying about your dumb theory that toradol blocks your pain receptors making you immune to the pain of your opponents punches
Secondly - blocking pain receptors is exactly how pain medication works.
toradol has a duration of action of 6-8 hours. The 1 hour limit aint gonna do ****. In addition, its a mild analgesic. How many times am i going to repeat this? go take a fkn advil and ask your neighbor to punch you in the face. Let me know if you feel any pain from his punch afterwards.
You should explain your "neighbor punch you in the face" theory to WADA and State Athletic Commisions. That way they can create a new prohibited list of banned substances.
Let me know how that turns out for you.
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He hit that bulls-eye switch off button, even the first knockdown didn't faced Manny, no jelly legs--no sign of deterioration, instead it only made him even more relentless and Marquez inadvertently activated Manny's killer instinct.
The second knockdown, Marquez hit that ultimate perfect spot, it's like a light-switch, the brain just switched off.
It was a great shot from Marquez and he knows he can't repeat it and Manny just got better defensively afterwards. Marquez is astute enough to assess this, this is why he refused the 100 million dollar rematch offer from Top Rank and just said he wanted to keep the feeling. Maybe he regretted this somewhere along the way, and part of his hate with Canelo was Canelo earning big bucks that he should have gotten with that last rematch and it didn't made him after all more popular than Julio Cesar Chavez and now Canelo is closing in on him in ATG status real fast.
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