Lets settle it. Which win was more impressive?Floyd vs Canelo or Pacquiao vs Thurman?

[Citizen Koba]

You can't make a case for floyd. Pac s 5 years older than Floyd when he beat cw nelo. Like 5 years don't mean.much? You can argue all day who is better between nel o and thurman as boxers.

But Pac s 5 years older than Floyd when he beat neloand it was a cw. Pac didn't drain thurman and try get advantage.
Why are people even arguing this.? Don't take what Floyd fans say seriously. Of course they will say floyds wins better. But they say things like there is nothing Pac can do that can elevate Pac above floyd!. So you know where you stand with Floyd fans. Nothing they say is born from realism so why would them pretending to think flouds win is better is concluded from fair evaluation? They think flouds win over Hatton is better than Pac s 2 round dextruction at Hatton best weight. So we already know if Pac koed thurman in 2 rounds floyds fans would still think foyds nelo cw green win is better still by some margin? They can always make a case for floyd win being better in their own minds. They think floyds cheated scales win over jmm is better than Pac s 3 wins if not scorecard error.
Nothing is born from realism..If Pac beat Anthony joshua, Floyd fans would say Floyd has win over so how good does that make clouds win over pac?
Wind up !merchants and sarcasm specialists are Floyd fans

Man, folk can make a case for almost anything. Outside of the incorrigible fans there'll be some OK posters on both sides who'll genuinely believe their guy has the better case, but I'm staying out of this one cos it's a damn pointless argument that'll go nowhere and just get folk wound up. All I was doing was outlining the salient arguments that each side is likely to use or has been using.

Like with P4P and all that subjective bullchit there is no right or wrong answer to a question like this, merely different viewpoints.

[QueensburyRules]

Like with P4P and all that subjective bullchit there is no right or wrong answer to a question like this, merely different viewpoints.

- -Manny holds ALL the Ring P4P records and that is definitively quantifiable.

There is right and then there is you in tight with wrong.

[Citizen Koba]

- -Manny holds ALL the Ring P4P records and that is definitively quantifiable.

There is right and then there is you in tight with wrong.

The concept of P4P is straight ridiculous, a fun talking point but no more, man... there's no way you can actually prove which fighter would be better if they were the same size unless they actually are the same size and fight each other... like saying if Manny was 6'6" and 240 would he have been better than Wlad, or how good would Usyk be if he was 5'5" and 118. Just cos the Ring subscribe to that bullchit too doesn't make it any more sensible. Pure. Subjective, Rabbit turd. Sure it's OK to have a lil back and forth on it but if you start taking that ish to heart you probably need to take a holiday.

I hold Floyd and Manny as two of the best fighters of the last 20 years, and both have been a pleasure to witness, no more and no less than that. I don't feel any need to rank their achievements one above the other and nor is their any clear cut and objective way to do so anyway.

[strykr619]

The concept of P4P is straight ridiculous, a fun talking point but no more, man... there's no way you can actually prove which fighter would be better if they were the same size unless they actually are the same size and fight each other... like saying if Manny was 6'6" and 240 would he have been better than Wlad, or how good would Usyk be if he was 5'5" and 118. Just cos the Ring subscribe to that bullchit too doesn't make it any more sensible. Pure. Subjective, Rabbit turd. Sure it's OK to have a lil back and forth on it but if you start taking that ish to heart you probably need to take a holiday.

I hold Floyd and Manny as two of the best fighters of the last 20 years, and both have been a pleasure to witness, no more and no less than that. I don't feel any need to rank their achievements one above the other and nor is their any clear cut and objective way to do so anyway.

Concept of P4P is silly TO YOU, that's your OPINION. Many boxing experts think other wise. In my OPINION P4P is a logical argument.

[Citizen Koba]

Concept of P4P is silly TO YOU, that's your OPINION. Many boxing experts think other wise. In my OPINION P4P is a logical argument.

Look man, when you can provide me some objective way of comparing two fighters in different weightclasses - or even just a broadly accepted consensus on which metrics are actually being compared - then sign me up. Till then it's just meaningless subjective babble. Fun, sure, if you're into that, but I'm seeing dudes arguing like their lives depended on it over this unproveable bullchit.

EDIT: But, yeah, that's just my opinion, ain't gonna argue with you there.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Originally, Floyd wanted Canelo at 150lbs. Nelo said 154. TMT said no fight. GBP persuaded Canelo to 152. Canelo said ok...

That was Team Canelo’s first venture is seeing the REAL BAG in boxing. They folded their cards and played along.

It is Canelo’s fault for losing. The reason why Canelo had to “box” Floyd is because he’s a power puncher. He was already having trouble at 154 during that time, the 2lbs was dentrimental to his performance.

It’s a toss, and you can’t blame Floyd. Sure we can argue Floyd taking advantage of weight with Marquez or doing the full 154 with Cotto and DLH, but nobody’s pointing a gun to fighter’s heads to take fights, and if they are pressured by the promoter then it’s simply money over anything. Let’s be realistic, all fighters want the Floyd or Canelo purse offers.

All I’m gonna say is Pac vs Thurman didn’t have VADA testing...

[IceTrayDaGang]

pac's win over thurman was more impressive for the simple fact that it was towards the end of manny's career and thurman was still consider as a top 147 fighter.

if floyd comes out of retirement now and beat canelo at 160-168 then that win will be better than the pac win over thurman.

[Boxing Goat]

There's no equal button. Both are awesome for different reasons. Floyd's win gets better and better and Manny's was when he was so old and is still yet to grow since it was so recent. Both were awesome wins knowing what we do now.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Originally, Floyd wanted Canelo at 150lbs. Nelo said 154. TMT said no fight. GBP persuaded Canelo to 152. Canelo said ok...

That was Team Canelo’s first venture is seeing the REAL BAG in boxing. They folded their cards and played along.

It is Canelo’s fault for losing. The reason why Canelo had to “box” Floyd is because he’s a power puncher. He was already having trouble at 154 during that time, the 2lbs was dentrimental to his performance.

It’s a toss, and you can’t blame Floyd. Sure we can argue Floyd taking advantage of weight with Marquez or doing the full 154 with Cotto and DLH, but nobody’s pointing a gun to fighter’s heads to take fights, and if they are pressured by the promoter then it’s simply money over anything. Let’s be realistic, all fighters want the Floyd or Canelo purse offers.

All I’m gonna say is Pac vs Thurman didn’t have VADA testing...

correction: floyd tried to get canelo to come down to 147 first!!! shady azz hell! lol.

According to Canelo, Mayweather first requested 147, and then went up to 150, and then 151 - and at that point Canelo countered and said he was willing to shed two pounds in order to make the fight happen.

"They tried to keep us quiet. They told us not to speak with the media. They told us not to disclose anything and we were fine with that.

[Spoon23]

So many butt hurt Floyd fan girls in here who can't accept the truth. haha Hilarious!

It's like ********s can't accept the fact Trump won lolololol

The POLLS have it!