Top Rank wants Wilder-Fury II this fall

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  • champion4ever
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    #11
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Silly comment there ... AJ won World Championship silver and Olympic gold as an amateur. He has the best amateur pedigree in the HW division, by a long way.
    Ruiz has over 110 amateur fights to just AJ's 43; Which means he has twice the amateur experience of Anthony Joshua.

    In addition, who exactly were some of these bums that Anthony Joshua defeated in order to win his Gold English National, Gold Great Britain and Silver World Championships as well as his Olympic Gold medal?

    I've rumors that a lot of his Olympic Gold medal bouts were questionable. Many believed that he received several gift decisions for a lot of them.

    The only reason why he was given the benefit of the doubt because the Games were hosted in London and he was the hometown favorite.

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    • pillowfists98
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      #12
      Top Rank don't want to have to overpay Fury for another "tune up fight". Thats why they want it in the fall. The Schwarz fight was a big flop and money loser.

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      • KTFOKING
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        #13
        LOL, the reason the fight didn't happen in May was because of Top Rank. Arum after signing Fury said he wants two interim fights and then a fight with Wilder in early 2020. Now all of a sudden he wants it in the fall and it is because of Wilder the fight isn't happening this year? What a joke of a statement from Rafael. I guess he's on pins and needles with Top Rank after getting sent to the production truck by Arum when he criticized Arum.

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        • turnedup
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          #14
          Agree, they let the option languish too long and gave Wilder a window to negotiate with Ortiz since Fury loves making people wait it seems. Btw Andy Ruiz isn't with top rank anymore at all or am I wrong about that? So they'd technically have to negotiate with Haymon to have Fury fight Ruiz should it come to that. I don't think it happens, imo I think Wilder closes the show in the rematch in brutal fashion unless Fury finds the power to stop him this time around.

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          • soul_survivor
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            #15
            Originally posted by Pigeons
            Wilder's camp wants to rematch Ortiz first. Risky decision by Wilder.


            https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=1-27204036
            I keep hearing "Wilder wants t orematch Ortiz" which was "Wilder will have the rematch after moobzeel"

            When is this fight actually going to happen?

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            • RENE BOX YOUNG
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              #16
              Everyone has BEEN wanting WIlder Fury II since after the first fight, but business and less-risk decisions prolongs it. We all know thins come on.

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              • PotentialToast
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                #17
                They want Fury v Wilder 2 & 3 before Whyte. Ortiz is going to get shafted here.

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                • Pigeons
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                  #18
                  Let's say Wilder does this:
                  Ortiz 2
                  Fury 2
                  Fury 3
                  Whyte
                  Ruiz/Joshua winner
                  Ruiz/Joshua winner again


                  15 title defenses, undisputed, lineal, beat each of the top heavys in his era. Where does he rank all-time among heavys?

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                  • Motorcity Cobra
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                    #19
                    I remember they wouldn't mention Wilder's name before the AJ fight and before Fury's fight. If both Wilder & Ruiz win their next fight Fury loses his spot in line. As he should because this will be a unification for undisputed. And he also gets pushed back behind Usyk, the WBO mandatory

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                    • eco1
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boliodogs
                      I wish the rematch between Wilder and Fury was next but Fury seems to be putting it off. Meanwhile I think Wilder defending his title against Ortiz is a good thing. Wilder is the champ and he should fight top 5 contenders like Ortiz. Too many of his title defenses have been against guys not even in the top 20. I think he will KO Ortiz again without getting hurt himself. Wilder seems to still be improving even at his old age of 33. This is a good fight to keep him sharp for Fury. I think he will KO Fury if the rematch happens. He almost knocked Fury out last fight. He just needs to throw more punches and more hard jabs and start faster. Sooner or later the big right should land flush for him. I don't think Fury is training that hard. He shoul be getting lighter but he was fat last fight. I think Wilder should set a fast pace in the rematch.
                      Improving at what Bolio? Checkers?

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