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  • Mooshashi
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    #21
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    I agree

    highly unlikely to be at 175, TWO full divisions higher than where Canelo fights

    why would he do that

    I say fk Kovalev, and all weight-impacted fights

    Canelo can fight Kovalev at 175 when he eventually moves up, like he did with Golovkin at 160

    Canelo really needs to fight Andrade..... that way he can flip a finger to the incompetent IBF, and become undisputed

    if no Andrade, because of this situation..... then he should forget about 160, and move to 168 for Callum Smith

    the ABC organisations just proved that they are not worth very much, especially not to Canelo

    the trigger-happy IBF are 100% responsible/accountable for fragmenting heavyweight and middleweight..... which is insane

    any fan/observer..... who insists that strict mandatories are great, regardless as to the caliber of opponent/fight they produce..... must be one of the corn-fed gimps who post here daily
    I must be ill, because I agree with you re Canelo moving up to 168 and fighting Smith, who is a very good fighter. And TALL.

    I could not care less about a unified MW belt, because I dont ever want to see Andrade fight again. Let him keep his damn belt.

    Canelo beats Smith, then fights Kovalov? If he wins at LHW, that would be historic. He gains nada fighting Andrade.

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    • Curtis Harper
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      #22
      Nelo setting himself up for ''Nelo only won because Kov is a senior citizen'' remarks, if they fight and he wins......

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #23
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Yet you applauded and celebrated when the IBF stripped GGG for not fighting the same guy you are now saying doesn't deserve a mandatory shot at a unified champ.

        Hypocritical arsehole.



        kid, he ducked Derevyanchenko to fight VANES

        what don't you get about that ?

        the IBF did not strip Hypekin for ducking Derevyanchenko..... they stripped him for participating in a unsanctioned contest against a total no-hoper

        the IBF just killed the possibility of a world title unification to determine the undisputed best middleweight on the planet

        only a total ***wit would be happy to hear that the dreadful IBF have ordered Canelo to fight Derevyanchenko

        who will be Canelo's next opponent..... that has been the talk of boxingscene for the last 2 weeks, but guess what muppet..... NOBODY MENTIONED DEREVYANCHENKO

        all of the MUCH BETTER opponents that were mentioned earlier, just got killed by the dreadful IBF..... not surprised at all to see a truly dreadful fan like you jumping about happily LMAO

        and I look forward to you insisting that Canelo was scared of Derevyanchenko when he dropped the IBF belt, despite Canelo immediately proceeding to fight someone BETTER..... unlike G who slinked away to fight Vanes, which you will insist was somehow necessary for his career LMAO

        I don't think you should be calling anyone a two-faced hypocrite dude

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          #24
          Originally posted by Mooshashi
          I must be ill, because I agree with you re Canelo moving up to 168 and fighting Smith, who is a very good fighter. And TALL.

          I could not care less about a unified MW belt, because I dont ever want to see Andrade fight again. Let him keep his damn belt.

          Canelo beats Smith, then fights Kovalov? If he wins at LHW, that would be historic. He gains nada fighting Andrade.



          he would technically become the undisputed unified middleweight champion of the world

          a historical feat that Golovkin spent 12 years of his life attempting

          imho, if Canelo goes the undisputed route, then he still needs to fight Charlo..... because Charlo is a real champion now, right?..... why go for all the marbles, but then leave one sitting on the table?

          but if no Andrade, then Charlo does not matter either..... because Canelo is already the #1 ranked middleweight..... so becoming undisputed is really the only way to go, other than moving up to 168

          in my perfect world..... Andrade > Charlo > Smith > Benavidez

          then maybe fight Golovkin at 168, other established champs at 168, or head north for Kovalev/etc

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          • kafkod
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            #25
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            kid, he ducked Derevyanchenko to fight VANES

            what don't you get about that ?

            the IBF did not strip Hypekin for ducking Derevyanchenko..... they stripped him for participating in a unsanctioned contest against a total no-hoper
            They stripped him for participating in a unsanctioned contest while refusing to give an undertaking to fight his mando within a stipulated time afterwards.

            GGG did not duck Deravyanchenko in order to fight Vanes and you know it. He ducked an IBF mandatory order because it came at an inconvenient time for him.

            As a GGG fan I was pissed off that the IBF didn't give him more leeway, but I didn't condemn them for sticking to their own rules, because I'm not a hypocrite like you.

            I wanted GGG to fight Derevyanchenko, but his reasons for not doing so were understandable - a potentially very tough fight at short notice for low rewards with a huge payday against Canelo blown if he lost.

            Canelo doesn't have any excuses like that for ducking the same guy. He would have had all the time he needed to prepare for Devy and he would have been paid a fortune by DAZN for fighting him.

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            • _Rexy_
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              #26
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              I'm wondering where they're getting this 171 or catch-weight info from. Other than a guy making a thread saying it, without a source, i haven't seen a catch-weight mentioned
              The guy held the middleweight championship hostage for how long with his own created weight class?

              But now he’s going to fight at 175 with no restrictions?

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                #27
                Originally posted by kafkod
                They stripped him for participating in a unsanctioned contest while refusing to give an undertaking to fight his mando within a stipulated time afterwards.

                GGG did not duck Deravyanchenko in order to fight Vanes and you know it. He ducked an IBF mandatory order because it came at an inconvenient time for him.


                LMAO

                you mean, EXACTLY like the current situation with Canelo/Derevy?

                " it came at an inconvenient time for him "

                with Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev..... all lining up for the Canelo sweepstake.....

                with ALL of those guys being MUCH better opponents than Derevy

                is that what you mean ?



                As a GGG fan I was pissed off that the IBF didn't give him more leeway, but I didn't condemn them for sticking to their own rules, because I'm not a hypocrite like you.

                I wanted GGG to fight Derevyanchenko, but his reasons for not doing so were understandable - a potentially very tough fight at short notice for low rewards with a huge payday against Canelo blown if he lost.

                Canelo doesn't have any excuses like that for ducking the same guy. He would have had all the time he needed to prepare for Devy and he would have been paid a fortune by DAZN for fighting him.


                listen, let's not forget one thing.....

                Golovkin did not have to fight Derevy, he could have selected Saunders..... that fight was offered to him, and a unification trumps a mandatory.....

                Golovkin avoided Derevyanchenko for Vanes

                Derevy is not standing in the way of Vanes for Canelo.....

                he is standing in the way of Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev

                NOBODY ranks Derevy more dangerous than those guys

                the IBF are ridiculous, Canelo will obviously vacate

                you need to keep it real, this situation is not the same

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                • kafkod
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  LMAO

                  you mean, EXACTLY like the current situation with Canelo/Derevy?

                  " it came at an inconvenient time for him "

                  with Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev..... all lining up for the Canelo sweepstake.....

                  with ALL of those guys being MUCH better opponents than Derevy

                  is that what you mean ?







                  listen, let's not forget one thing.....

                  Golovkin did not have to fight Derevy, he could have selected Saunders..... that fight was offered to him, and a unification trumps a mandatory.....

                  Golovkin avoided Derevyanchenko for Vanes

                  Derevy is not standing in the way of Vanes for Canelo.....

                  he is standing in the way of Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev

                  NOBODY ranks Derevy more dangerous than those guys

                  the IBF are ridiculous, Canelo will obviously vacate

                  you need to keep it real, this situation is not the same
                  You are saying the 2 situations are the same - but still approving what the IBF did with GGG and condemning them for doing exactly the same thing with Canelo.

                  Like I said, you are a hypocritical kunt.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    The guy held the middleweight championship hostage for how long with his own created weight class?

                    But now he’s going to fight at 175 with no restrictions?
                    I don't believe he has any real intention of fighting Kovalev, which is why they are making him lowball offers.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      You are saying the 2 situations are the same - but still approving what the IBF did with GGG and condemning them for doing exactly the same thing with Canelo.

                      Like I said, you are a hypocritical kunt.


                      I said that it served Golovkin right when he was stripped by the IBF for fighting a scrub rather than defending his mandatory

                      and I absolutely stand by that comment

                      Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev > Vanes

                      it is pretty obvious that those situations are different

                      nobody cared if the Derevy mando killed G's super-fight with Vanes

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