Comments Thread For: IBF Could Strip Canelo; Order Golovkin-Derevyanchenko For Title

[BoloShot]

you are applauding the principle, but ignoring the result

they have now fragmented TWO divisions, heavyweight and middleweight..... both of those decisions resulting in a shlt fight, and both of those decisions likely resulting in a guy who was NOT the best fighter in his division being crowned as champion

their rankings are SHlT !!..... until they fix that problem, their mandatories are simply toxic for boxing

nobody in their right mind could possibly suggest that forcing a Canelo/Derevyanchenko mandatory NOW is in the best interests of boxing..... far from it, that decision is CLEARLY blocking a unification matchup that would determine the undisputed middleweight champion of the world

it is total insanity, the IBF are shooting boxing in the foot because of their total inability to make a common-sense decision

this is what the IBF achieved.....

FACT: everyone is talking about who Canelo's next opponent will be, it has been the talk of boxingscene for the last 2 weeks..... well, guess what..... Derevyanchenko was not mentioned ONCE

so this is the effect that decision will have on boxing/fans

all of the good fights that have been mentioned so far, just got killed by the IBF..... and the IBF now pushed themselves onto the world-stage to make the following earth-shattering announcement..... that they think Derevyancehnko is the best middleweight in the planet loooool

congratulations IBF..... they look dumb as fcuk to me..... they are like casual-fans sitting on the outside looking in, without really having a clue what is happening

sorry bro, but I couldn't disagree more..... the IBF are fkn awful, and easily the worst sanctioning body

just like in business, and in life..... you have to get EVERYTHING right, period..... if you fall short in that regard, you often fail..... just like the IBF did

they have simply got to fix their truly dreadful rankings


1 > DEREVYANCHENKO
2 > VACANT
3 > GOLOVKIN
4 > SZEREMETA
5 > JACOBS
6 > WOJCICKI
7 > FALCAO
8 > CULCAY
9 > BUTLER
10 > VOLNY
11 > NURSULTANOV
12 > RADOVAN
13 > KEELER
14 > QUIGLEY
15 > FOX

no Andrade, no Charlo, no Brant, no Lemieux.....

ranking Derevy ahead of Jacobs, despite the fact Jacobs just beat him..... ranking Derevy ahead of Golovkin..... ranking Szeremeta ahead of Jacobs.....

no decision made by an organisation with rankings like that could possibly have a positive effect on boxing..... they are literally unqualified to comment

lets put this into perspective..... DAZN, refusing to approve a middleweight unification undisputed title fight..... is only the second stupidest thing that happened within boxing this week

IBF and DAZN are a fkn disgrace

Canelo should drop both of them and fight Andrade, I am 100% positive that DAZN refusing to approve an undisputed unification title-fight is a breach of their contract with Canelo

Canelo should start mentioning lawyers, and we will see how many seconds it takes DAZN to approve Andrade..... they would likely approve Andrade just to retain Canelo and avoid the bad publicity

Charlo, Andrade, Brant wouldn't be in their rankings cos they hold belts under different orgs you fool. Lemieux is moving to super middleweight. Derevyanchenko is #1 because he fought a mandatory eliminator against a tough and game Jack Culcay. Stop complaining, the IBF is the only somewhat respectable sanctioning body.

[MDPopescu]

Charlo, Andrade, Brant wouldn't be in their rankings cos they hold belts under different orgs you fool. Lemieux is moving to super middleweight. Derevyanchenko is #1 because he fought a mandatory eliminator against a tough and game Jack Culcay. Stop complaining, the IBF is the only somewhat respectable sanctioning body.

(I don't have anything against IBF)...

... but the biggest flaw of all those "sanctioning bodies" is that the don't rank at all the belt holders in "other orgs"... which is absolutely stupid...

[BoloShot]

(I don't have anything against IBF)...

... but the biggest flaw of all those "sanctioning bodies" is that the don't rank at all the belt holders in "other orgs"... which is absolutely stupid...

Yeah that's a problem they all share so there can be loads done for that but I reckon they don't want to have to try and rank other belt holders lower than they'd like as it doesn't suit the endless platitudes required to grease up boxing politicians.

[aboutfkntime]

Charlo, Andrade, Brant wouldn't be in their rankings cos they hold belts under different orgs you fool. Lemieux is moving to super middleweight. Derevyanchenko is #1 because he fought a mandatory eliminator against a tough and game Jack Culcay. Stop complaining, the IBF is the only somewhat respectable sanctioning body.

well.... that sure does sound like a legit way to have the best fighters in the world competing for your title..... doesn't it?

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah that's a problem they all share so there can be loads done for that but I reckon they don't want to have to try and rank other belt holders lower than they'd like as it doesn't suit the endless platitudes required to grease up boxing politicians.

but, you said the IBF were... " somewhat respectable " ?

kidding, I know what you mean

like MDPopescu said..... if you do not rank the best fighters in the world, then ordering a mandatory is highly unlikely to be the best outcome for boxing

[techliam]

well.... that sure does sound like a legit way to have the best fighters in the world competing for your title..... doesn't it?

Promoters will always opt for titles they can manipulate

Plus, fighting for the WBA/WBC/WBO doesn’t require the same day weigh in.

If they started ranking other champions, and champions don’t fight for the vacant IBF belt for reasons outlined above, it would make the IBF look second rate. Unfortunately, until we rid the world of the WBA/WBC/WBO, the IBF rankings will suffer

[aboutfkntime]

Promoters will always opt for titles they can manipulate

Plus, fighting for the WBA/WBC/WBO doesn’t require the same day weigh in.

If they started ranking other champions, and champions don’t fight for the vacant IBF belt for reasons outlined above, it would make the IBF look second rate. Unfortunately, until we rid the world of the WBA/WBC/WBO, the IBF rankings will suffer

Canelo will vacate

the IBF will order Golovkin/Derevyanchenko

Golovkin will win

the IBF will order Golovkin/Szeremeta..... (a real guy, ranked right behind Golovkin)

Golovkin will vacate

* sigh *

[BoloShot]

but, you said the IBF were... " somewhat respectable " ?

kidding, I know what you mean

like MDPopescu said..... if you do not rank the best fighters in the world, then ordering a mandatory is highly unlikely to be the best outcome for boxing

Hell they would if they could but the legal precedent would be too much to handle. You basically need the IBF to become the one legit belt to allow it to become the best beyond a doubt.

[aboutfkntime]

Hell they would if they could but the legal precedent would be too much to handle. You basically need the IBF to become the one legit belt to allow it to become the best beyond a doubt.

but, they can't..... so, they shouldn't

ordering Canelo/Derevyanchenko killed MUCH better fights

they are the little engine that could..... except, they can't

if you have nothing good to say, then keep your mouth shut

it is better to keep your mouth shut, at the risk of looking like a fool..... rather than opening it, and removing all doubt

the IBF look like fools, stepping in the way of Canelo/Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev..... to insist that Derevyanchenko is a better opponent

[BoloShot]

but, they can't..... so, they shouldn't

ordering Canelo/Derevyanchenko killed MUCH better fights

they are the little engine that could..... except, they can't




the IBF look like fools, stepping in the way of Canelo/Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Smith, Kovalev..... to insist that Derevyanchenko is a better opponent

You do realise that unifications are given more precedence ahead of mandatory duties? Derev is #1 contender with them, they're not saying he's the best MW around, their champ is.