GGG took 0 risks in his career.

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  • New England
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    #71
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Dominic Wade, Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls were all huge risks.

    Weren't they?

    danny jacobs and canelo twice. fighting canelo, a fighter bordering on greatness and who only needs another signature win or two to get there, 2x in his prime is a lot more than a lot more of a challenge than a lot of people can say. especially when you're in your mid to late 30's when you do it.

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    • Mighty_Windir
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      #72
      So Jacobs was not a risk?

      Interesting

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        #73
        Originally posted by New England
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        "Sergio will be out for at least a year. You saw his last fight, he won it on guts and will and balls alone. He had no knee, he had no hand, and I'm not sending a champion who is 38-years-old - after a year plus layoff - into a ring with this guy. I'm not saying they will never fight. I'm not speaking for Sergio, who is a grown as man and controls his own career. The successor to Sergio Martiknez has already been determined and the next great middleweight is Triple G."
        -guess who said this ?
        hes saying he had a major injury, and says the opposite of what u claim.

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          #74
          Originally posted by DreamFighter
          hes saying he had a major injury, and says the opposite of what u claim.


          that golokvin is the next middleweight champion ?

          oh yeah, conduct befitting of a promoter.


          of course none of this talk about a fight that actually happened. whereas golovkin fought canelo twice in his prime and the thread should be ended there.

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          • Cobra Curry
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            #75
            Originally posted by DreamFighter
            i think in real time canelo had fought him twice, you need a reality check mate.
            Yes, at 36 instead of 34, to two hotly disputed results.
            "Let's do it again!"
            "No, fight someone else."

            As to your second point, I can see why people think he ducked Lara, while people are still going back and forth over Andre Ward.
            Outside of those two, who did GGG deliberately avoid?

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              #76
              Reported this topic. We as a group need to fix this forum.

              You have a ****** on here posting topics about how GGG didn't take risks. Yet he beat Canelo twice, WHILE Canelo got popped for PEDs.

              We need to do better. Dealing with these type of threads is not necessary. Ban this user and give a warning.

              Thanks.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                Reported this topic. We as a group need to fix this forum.

                You have a ****** on here posting topics about how GGG didn't take risks. Yet he beat Canelo twice, WHILE Canelo got popped for PEDs.

                We need to do better. Dealing with these type of threads is not necessary. Ban this user and give a warning.

                Thanks.
                What you said is an opinion. Canelo beating the G is a FACT

                Canelo wasn't seen as a risk. The G was the boogeyman that Canelo was supposedly afraid of and the G waited for little Canelo to move up in weight

                That truth hurts

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds
                  Let that sink in. None, nada, absolutely no risks.

                  Mr 154-168 turned out to be false. Neve moved up or moved down to face a top guy.

                  Never tried to make any concessions in getting big fights either.

                  This is the people's champ????
                  I would say that fighting all of your fights in neutral sites/as the 'away' fighter is about the biggest risk you can take in boxing...skill gap at the top level is not that great, and when you do that your whole career, or even for 15-20 fights, you are probably bound to end up on the wrong side of a decision.

                  GGG in a way could afford to take that risk because his style leads to a lot of KOs...but I think that's a testament to how great he is/was and should be appreciated...he was able to get the job done convincingly by KO 90% of the time, leaving no room for argument about who was better that night.

                  Regarding moving up or down - for GGG I think a lot of it was that the big money/'legacy' fights at 160 and below, and at 168, never materialized because GGG, especially in his younger days, was never a big enough draw for them to take on the risk...Floyd/Pac/Cotto never wanted to do it at 160 and below.

                  Froch and Chavez never at 168. Ward/GGG would have been great but imo would have been almost impossible to negotiate...Ward was the pretty clear B side there but love him or hate him, Ward always like to have control of the negotiations/venue etc.

                  It has been evident that the GGG/Canelo fight was coming a few years back...and that was obviously the biggest money fight for GGG, and a pretty big 'legacy' fight as well...so him staying at 160 just made a lot of sense...I do think he could have negotiated more with Canelo on weight etc earlier.

                  But I think since Canelo was fighting at MW, GGG felt the fight should be at 160...and fortunately for him it seemed public opinion was on GGG's side and forced Canelo imo to take that fight more on neutral terms...though a bit delayed from when we all wanted it.

                  If GGG was grinding out decisions in Karaganda Khazakstan I would agree that he was overhyped and never took any risks...but fighting on the road/neutral all the time, especially in boxing (in any era probably), is about the biggest risk you can take...winning 8-4 can mean a draw...7-5 can mean a loss...he could get the KOs so he could negate that risk, but that is still in a lot of ways the biggest risk for any boxer.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by New England
                    danny jacobs and canelo twice. fighting canelo, a fighter bordering on greatness and who only needs another signature win or two to get there, 2x in his prime is a lot more than a lot more of a challenge than a lot of people can say. especially when you're in your mid to late 30's when you do it.
                    Canelo is the cash cow of the sport. Everyone wants that fight and everyone would take it if offered.

                    What risks did Golovkin take outside of fighting the guy who gave him the biggest purses of his career?

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                    • DreamFighter
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Cobra Curry
                      Yes, at 36 instead of 34, to two hotly disputed results.
                      "Let's do it again!"
                      "No, fight someone else."
                      someone else being steve rolls, in 3gs case.

                      Twice and you want it again? The proof is in your face, Canelo is better.

                      As to your second point, I can see why people think he ducked Lara, while people are still going back and forth over Andre Ward.
                      Outside of those two, who did GGG deliberately avoid?
                      why should he care about those outside his division.

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