GGG took 0 risks in his career.

[DreamFighter]

Not at all.

u categorically said his profile would be raised AND his bank balance, and when it was shown this wouldnt be the case you claim not at all.

[Cobra Curry]

u categorically said his profile would be raised AND his bank balance, and when it was shown this wouldnt be the case you claim not at all.

I'm not saying he would have won those fights although I think he would have.
Had those fights happened I assume he would have been paid and been exposed to a larger audience.

[DreamFighter]

I'm not saying he would have won those fights although I think he would have.
Had those fights happened I assume he would have been paid and been exposed to a larger audience.

you mean "had he won"

[jdp28tx]

I'm not saying he would have won those fights although I think he would have.
Had those fights happened I assume he would have been paid and been exposed to a larger audience.

GGG fans have so little to praise about regarding GGG's real record that they have to start giving him credit or give him fantasy wins in order to legitimize in their heads how good he is.

[Cobra Curry]

My point is when people rightfully criticize GGG's record on comes along GGG fans claiming he (allegedly) tried to fight this guy or that guy, but said fights never happened. Yet, GGG fans claim he deserves the same kind of credit for fights he (allegedly) tried to make with the fights he actually had.

His resume is thin, fair enough. I'm just pointing out that there were certain fights thay others willing to have with him.
Saunders, who I like, admitted he didn't want the fight. Sturm and Canelo's reluctance was self evident.

Criticism is fine, but let's give the whole picture.

[Cobra Curry]

GGG fans have so little to praise about regarding GGG's real record that they have to start giving him credit or give him fantasy wins in order to legitimize in their heads how good he is.

😄😄
No one's giving him fantasy wins. Simply giving a reason why his resume is not as deep as we'd all like it to be.

[Cobra Curry]

you mean "had he won"

No one fights for free and the aforementioned fights would have taken place in front of larger audiences than previously.

[jdp28tx]

His resume is thin, fair enough. I'm just pointing out that there were certain fights thay others willing to have with him.
Saunders, who I like, admitted he didn't want the fight. Sturm and Canelo's reluctance was self evident.

Criticism is fine, but let's give the whole picture.

The only fights that should be counted are the fights on his record. The "whole picture" is not the whole picture because in boxing no one really knows for certain who declined to fight who, who agreed to fight who, who backed out, and for what reasons.

Each side tells a different story and each side always blames the other for certain fights not taking place. The classic example is the Paq vs Mayweather fight and why it never took place before 2015.

[DreamFighter]

No one fights for free and the aforementioned fights would have taken place in front of larger audiences than previously.

if canelos already beat him in your timeline, then real time canelo matches are not going to happen.

So far, in real time,GGG's post Canelo career is Steve Rolls, so your evidence is scant at the moment, but it might improve. facing canelo has literally "opened doors" to Steve Rolls and Vanes so far.

[Cobra Curry]

The only fights that should be counted are the fights on his record. The "whole picture" is not the whole picture because in boxing no one really knows for certain who declined to fight who, who agreed to fight who, who backed out, and for what reasons.

Each side tells a different story and each side always blames the other for certain fights not taking place. The classic example is the Paq vs Mayweather fight and why it never took place before 2015.

Like I said, I'm not trying to give him extra wins.

We all saw Canelo throw the belt, we all saw Sturm flat out refuse to fight and Saunders said out if his own mouth that he wasn't ready for Golovkin.
There's no great mystery here, no "he said, she said". It all happened in front of our eyes.