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  • elfag
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    #231
    Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
    I've been telling the gullible fan boys on here that Fury is the number 1 Heavyweight. Joshua got exposed. Fury exposed Wilder. So Fury v. Wilder again to make it clear who the number 1 Heavyweight is is obviously the fight.

    As much as I hate to admit it and rather back American fighters, Fury is very hard to beat. 6'9'' with an 85'' reach. Very good stamina and work rate for a large man. He goes for the decision not for the KO. If youre a fighter going for the KO against him and it never happens, then youre looking at losing a decision. He throws arm punches like Valuev and Vitali and has the similar long term stamina down the stretch they had.


    IDK what kind of training AJ has been doing but based on AJ's absolute dog chit level stamina we saw last night, he will be thoroughly outworked by Fury. AJ likes to box from a distance and Fury has him on reach and height. AJ has no chance vs Fury. If AJ got lucky and landed something big, we've seen Fury rise from the dead vs Deontay and AJ dont hit like Deontay

    Vs Wilder he is the only ranked fighter on the planet with a longer reach and height, he fights tall as well, his head is simply outside of wilder's reach for most of the fight, something Wilder isnt used to and where is he going to find a 6'9'' sparring partner at? He missed most of the bombs by being out of reach and his defense and movement is deceptively good for someone so large and often times so fat. Wilder can put him out if he connects as we've seen, its just hard to connect clean.
    Last edited by elfag; 06-02-2019, 08:35 AM.

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    • Liondw
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      #232
      Joshua was well and truly exposed, but we knew he wasn't a great like Lennox Lewis, for example. Great credit to Ruiz, who will fancy his chances in a rematch as well, and would be well favoured to do it again. You can't train your chin. Wilder and Fury are now clearly the two best with unfinished business, although Fury can more likely be considered number one. Wilder could possibly ko Fury in a rematch, but that fight is not this year.

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      • mlac
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        #233
        This is true, but Wilder is also a fraud. you just lost agaisnt a fat gypo who was suicidal 350 lbs and on a coke bender FFS

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        • OldTerry
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          #234
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          Wilder is just mad Andy took a massive payday away from him. Wilder should take Whyte and AJ fights when Hearn they were offered. Well, he is not very intelligent guy.

          Wilder can only beg Hearn to bring him Whyte now.
          Wilder's not begging. Obviously you don't get it. The heavyweight championship is more than just about the money. Joshua's loss is the best thing that could have happened as the most meaningful fights can perhaps be made now.

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          • OldTerry
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            #235
            Originally posted by juandabomb
            his dumbarse done messed up...wilder lost alot of money..lmao
            Joshua's value has gone down greatly so what you say is true. This is simply the boxing market finding its' real value as it was overpriced.

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            • OldTerry
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              #236
              Originally posted by BoxingTech718
              I’d be disappointed and pissed but him and AJ should still run it. At least now that AJ lost there won’t be any obstacles to a 50/50 fight.
              50/50? Not anymore. Now it's 6/40 Wilder.

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              • OldTerry
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                #237
                Originally posted by Money Shot
                Wilder hasn't really beat anybody except a 50 year old heart patient that had him dead on the ropes and saved by the bell and kindly ref.
                Still and just the same, Wilder has never been knocked down or lost any of his fights. Never been KO'd either.

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                • rickJen
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                  #238
                  The bum killer speaks.
                  Same guy who was told not rush fighting Klitschko.
                  He did the same with Joshua.
                  What a joke.

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by el***
                    As much as I hate to admit it and rather back American fighters, Fury is very hard to beat. 6'9'' with an 85'' reach. Very good stamina and work rate for a large man. He goes for the decision not for the KO. If youre a fighter going for the KO against him and it never happens, then youre looking at losing a decision. He throws arm punches like Valuev and Vitali and has the similar long term stamina down the stretch they had.


                    IDK what kind of training AJ has been doing but based on AJ's absolute dog chit level stamina we saw last night, he will be thoroughly outworked by Fury. AJ likes to box from a distance and Fury has him on reach and height. AJ has no chance vs Fury. If AJ got lucky and landed something big, we've seen Fury rise from the dead vs Deontay and AJ dont hit like Deontay

                    Vs Wilder he is the only ranked fighter on the planet with a longer reach and height, he fights tall as well, his head is simply outside of wilder's reach for most of the fight, something Wilder isnt used to and where is he going to find a 6'9'' sparring partner at? He missed most of the bombs by being out of reach and his defense and movement is deceptively good for someone so large and often times so fat. Wilder can put him out if he connects as we've seen, its just hard to connect clean.
                    I think you have one of the better analysis of the current Heavyweight landscape.

                    Let's not forget that Joshua's chin was exposed as well. Joshua has been fighting guys who will not let there hands go and constantly exchange like Ruiz. Ruiz was able to handle Joshua's power for the most part and make Joshua take punches every time he threw his punches. I actually think Fury could stop Joshua for that reason. Joshua can take one shot at a time, but he can't handle combination shots. And if Ruiz beats Joshua again in the UK, he has a huge fight lined up with Wilder or Fury in the US.

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                    • OldTerry
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by NachoMan
                      Wilder could have taken the high road and handled that with a bit more class. Oh well, not a lot of room at the top for nice guys.
                      I'm a Wilder fan but "Class" is something he doesn't have. Of course appearing classy is not the same as actually having class. Many pretenders.

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