Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Wasn't a True Champion, Whole Career Full of Lies

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& yet you c.unts have Trump, 150 mass shootings so far this year & are implementing misogynistic ******** laws.
I hate to use the term but ‘yall’ the f.kin ****** mother fuc.ers.

And you have no future whatsoever. You have lost your homeland to savages who hate you and you are projected for total extinction. You are subject to being locked in a prison sell indefinitely for speaking out against it. Enjoy.

[Carlos Danger]

You mean he soiled his American debut?

[R_Walken]

Ruiz has the best official win out of any HW currently. That puts him in contention for one of the top 2 spots. There was no controversy, no awful scoring, a clean, clear victory. Though Ruiz did come from lower in the rankings.

Fury has a good win over Wilder unofficially, where he showed he was systematically the better boxer, along with a body of over solid work in the division.

Wilder has a win over Ortiz but was outclassed by Fury, and Joshua has just been beaten.

I would like to hear your reasoning as to why Ruiz shouldn’t be ranked over Wilder, when he has the much better resume with this win. Official decisions have no bearing on how good a fighter is.

1. Fury
2. Ruiz
3. Wilder
4. Joshua

Again respectfully disagree

Fury has the best Win when he went to enemy territory and beat the man who was the Reigning King of the Division when it mattered.

AJ didn’t beat Klit for those straps/ In fact the only reason AJ had those straps to begin with is because Fury decided to have a ******* & doughnut fuelled sabbatical. AJ was never the man because he earned it / He was #1 because his popularity allowed him to pick off weak strap holders by giving them more $ then they’d get elsewhere. AJ still hasn’t fought the 3 most dangerous HWs to prove his worth. The Crown was still up for grabs at HW between AJ / Fury / Wilder. The only thing that’s changed is AJ might have possibly dropped out of that discussion after last night

Without Out any other even half decent wins on his CV and not knowing if this win is a anomaly or a good style matchup , Ruiz hasn’t proved or deserves to be #2

Fury beat the man when it mattered

Wilders the longest reigning strap holder in the sport / Has faced the biggest threats in the division and still has his strap and his body of work of caliber of fighters he’s beaten sh.its on Ruiz’s. Besides AJ Ruiz doesn’t even have a scalp that is even on Brezeales /Stiverne /Arreolla Level.

This one W doesn’t allow him to leapfrog to #2. Yes he beat the #1 , now do it again in the rematch or face some of the divisions threats to prove it wasn’t a fluke.

The top 2 are Wikder / Fury and while Fury proved what we all know he’s the better boxer he also laid unconscious and lifeless in the 12th for 6 seconds ( Most refs would have called the fight ) and may not have even beaten the count if Reiss hadn’t been so startled that he woke up and lost track of his count, Nothing was definitely settled and Fury ran from a Immediate rematch. You can’t reward that and have him ranked #1

Official decisions may not have bearings to how good a fighter is when that fighter avoided a Immediate rematch to make things right it sure does.

1 Wilder
2 Fury
3 Ruiz
4 AJ

Because of Ruiz’s resume lacking any depth his position at 3 isn’t even safe. He can get leapfrogged by Whyte / Ortiz / Usyk rather easily if any of them they get a solid win or 2.

Ruiz has the trinkets but as of right now he hasn’t proven he’s among the best
In the division and the rightful owner to those straps

Maybe he Buster Douglassed it last night and caught a unmotivated AJ / Maybe he had the fight of his life
Never to be repeated again

Maybe this is the beginning of Ruiz showing he’s the man to beat at HW ( I doubt it )

But we don’t know yet so there’s no way he should leapfrog a fighter who right now is the longest reigning strap holder in the sport and by the time he fights next will be in the all time top 10 HW Champions Reigns.

Yes Ruiz won last night but 1 night doesn’t allow him to jump the queue when the rest of his resume is so lacklustre

[billfifty]

You mean he soiled his American debut?

LOL...great first post

[Deeznuts]

Joshua fans have now turned to hardcore Fury fans overnight LOL

[JWHardin]

Again respectfully disagree

Fury has the best Win when he went to enemy territory and beat the man who was the Reigning King of the Division when it mattered.

AJ didn’t beat Klit for those straps/ In fact the only reason AJ had those straps to begin with is because Fury decided to have a ******* & doughnut fuelled sabbatical. AJ was never the man because he earned it / He was #1 because his popularity allowed him to pick off weak strap holders by giving them more $ then they’d get elsewhere. AJ still hasn’t fought the 3 most dangerous HWs to prove his worth. The Crown was still up for grabs at HW between AJ / Fury / Wilder. The only thing that’s changed is AJ might have possibly dropped out of that discussion after last night

Without Out any other even half decent wins on his CV and not knowing if this win is a anomaly or a good style matchup , Ruiz hasn’t proved or deserves to be #2

Fury beat the man when it mattered

Wilders the longest reigning strap holder in the sport / Has faced the biggest threats in the division and still has his strap and his body of work of caliber of fighters he’s beaten sh.its on Ruiz’s. Besides AJ Ruiz doesn’t even have a scalp that is even on Brezeales /Stiverne /Arreolla Level.

This one W doesn’t allow him to leapfrog to #2. Yes he beat the #1 , now do it again in the rematch or face some of the divisions threats to prove it wasn’t a fluke.

The top 2 are Wikder / Fury and while Fury proved what we all know he’s the better boxer he also laid unconscious and lifeless in the 12th for 6 seconds ( Most refs would have called the fight ) and may not have even beaten the count if Reiss hadn’t been so startled that he woke up and lost track of his count, Nothing was definitely settled and Fury ran from a Immediate rematch. You can’t reward that and have him ranked #1

Official decisions may not have bearings to how good a fighter is when that fighter avoided a Immediate rematch to make things right it sure does.

1 Wilder
2 Fury
3 Ruiz
4 AJ

Because of Ruiz’s resume lacking any depth his position at 3 isn’t even safe. He can get leapfrogged by Whyte / Ortiz / Usyk rather easily if any of them they get a solid win or 2.

Ruiz has the trinkets but as of right now he hasn’t proven he’s among the best
In the division and the rightful owner to those straps

Maybe he Buster Douglassed it last night and caught a unmotivated AJ / Maybe he had the fight of his life
Never to be repeated again

Maybe this is the beginning of Ruiz showing he’s the man to beat at HW ( I doubt it )

But we don’t know yet so there’s no way he should leapfrog a fighter who right now is the longest reigning strap holder in the sport and by the time he fights next will be in the all time top 10 HW Champions Reigns.

Yes Ruiz won last night but 1 night doesn’t allow him to jump the queue when the rest of his resume is so lacklustre

Good post.

[Carlos Danger]

Well the cheeky ****s still arent happy!

[Blond Beast]

Joshua fans have now turned to hardcore Fury fans overnight LOL

Retreat and regroup.

[sir ronni james]

only Thing missing now is Wilder losin to Ortiz and then Ortiz vs Ruiz is becoming the biggest fight for the MW Crown :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[sir ronni james]

for the HW Crown