Is Luis Ortiz a dud opponent at this point?

[rolshans]

Name 5 better.
The division is weak AF, Ortiz is clearly top 5.

I wouldn't say clearly top 5. Him and Povetkin have been 5/6 for a while now.

[Deus]

They forget Povetkin did about as good as Ortiz did against Hammer. I still consider Ortiz Wilder's best win and Povetkin Joshua's 2nd best win. They don't realize they're discrediting both fighters.

Nice to see somebody else put Ortiz and Povetkin in the same bracket... usually one is a top heavyweight and the other is a washed up bum (pick and choose which way depending on which team).

Anyway.. Ortiz isn't a dud opponent at this point because there is still a level of intrigue after the first fight considering Wilder was in hot water at one point. That said I fully expect that Ortiz's real chance has now gone and in the rematch he will be blown out of the water early.

Wilder himself has talked about facing Ortiz 2 / 3 times; I think the rematch he can get away with but if the rematch goes as many would expect then there will be absolutely 0 interest in a third.

[hugh grant]

can you prove he is 50????? no emotions or personal opinions, just prove it, this really makes you all look bad... prove to us that he is at least 50 years old

NOt sure hes 50 but he looks about 46. Fury looks 40.
Wilder looks 30 as does JOsh.

[uppercut510]

not sure hes 50 but he looks about 46. Fury looks 40.
Wilder looks 30 as does josh.

thats your opinion tho, this has been spread as a fact after wilder beat him, before he was another fighter wilder was ducking and there was no mention of this 50 years of age thing, im just trying to see if this is a fact or opinion since its just thrown around.

[redmish]

Who knows? Hes never fought anyone. He turned the AJ fight down recently and just fights cans for a living. His claim to fame is getting knocked out by Wilder. I have no clue how good he is.

[DuckAdonis]

Ortiz looked like total trash in his last fight. I wouldn't be confident in him winning vs anyone in the top 10

[uppercut510]

Nice to see somebody else put Ortiz and Povetkin in the same bracket... usually one is a top heavyweight and the other is a washed up bum (pick and choose which way depending on which team).

Anyway.. Ortiz isn't a dud opponent at this point because there is still a level of intrigue after the first fight considering Wilder was in hot water at one point. That said I fully expect that Ortiz's real chance has now gone and in the rematch he will be blown out of the water early.

Wilder himself has talked about facing Ortiz 2 / 3 times; I think the rematch he can get away with but if the rematch goes as many would expect then there will be absolutely 0 interest in a third.

Around here pedvtkin is a top quality opponent and Ortiz is an old 52 year old ped cheat bum.

[W1LL]

can you prove he is 50????? no emotions or personal opinions, just prove it, this really makes you all look bad... prove to us that he is at least 50 years old

Who's "we"? I'm White British/Irish, and I've been a Deontay Wilder fan since probably before you knew he existed.

[LacedUp]

It's a good fight; just not one that means anything or that we asked for.

[W1LL]

Name 5 better.
The division is weak AF, Ortiz is clearly top 5.

Fury, AJ, Wilder, Whyte, Parker, Miller, Povetkin, Ruiz Jr., Rivas, Pulev, Usyk. Arguably Chisora, Joyce, Hrgovic, Kownacki, Takam, Hughie Fury.