Comments Thread For: Greed or greatness? How will we remember this heavyweight era

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I knew when the Klit bros who a lot of guys hated retired they would be sorely missed. look at the garbage now on the HW scene

There's a Vitali fight, I forget which one, where he's picking some poor ba+ard apart and seems to be intentionally prolonging the punishment. One of the commentary guys says something to the extent of, "People complain but I somehow think we're going to miss them when they're gone."
At the time it seemed like a funny statement. But, in retrospect, man is it true.

When I see people talk about Fury putting on a "boxing clinic" in the Wilder fight, I wanna show them an old Vitali fight where putting on a clinic means you actually HURT the guy, and you don't get dropped on your ass twice.

This era is a nothing great but the personalities and promotions are much better so people are fooled into believing we've got something special going on here.

[Sid-Knee]

Still to early to say.

If we are asking the same questions in 2yrs as today than the potential greatness of this HW era has been missed.

That said I think even if the greatness of this era gets missed we will be quickly entering into another potential fun HW era cuz there are plenty of good HW prospects on the rise that some will become legit threats in the next couple years to challenge or suceed the current guys with title claims.

This shouldn't be a problem with you. You support this as you think "Getting what you can" is all that matters. Forget that we don't get the fights to keep the sport alive. No, just support delusional cowards pricing themselves out all the time or waiting until they're well past their best like Manny was.

For this sport to continue, we need certain people to f3ck off and never for them to return as they are doing nothing but destroying anything good. Even Thurman is now refusing to fight Spence until 2020 so he can "Get bigger". F3cking crazy. Support that as well do you? Maybe if he asks for 70% of the money your excitement will hit fever pitch.

[Eff Pandas]

This shouldn't be a problem with you. You support this as you think "Getting what you can" is all that matters. Forget that we don't get the fights to keep the sport alive. No, just support delusional cowards pricing themselves out all the time or waiting until they're well past their best like Manny was.

For this sport to continue, we need certain people to f3ck off and never for them to return as they are doing nothing but destroying anything good. Even Thurman is now refusing to fight Spence until 2020 so he can "Get bigger". F3cking crazy. Support that as well do you? Maybe if he asks for 70% of the money your excitement will hit fever pitch.

Dry your tears my friend.

Don't really understand your point thats being directed at me with all this crying.

[Sid-Knee]

Some talented HWs this era, mainly just 3, but the fillers are not that bad either. Hearn is going to be the culprit behind AJ not fighting Wilder or Fury. AJ AKA Unc Tom, is the only one willing to sell his a$$ to the masta. While I am on a rant, I am going to say this again, American promoters should be ashamed of themselves letting this guy think he calls shots. Arum is getting too old to let his balls swang like he used to, Delahoya has "yes sir" issues, King is dead, I mean this man is up by default. Plus they let Hearn sign Haney. Big mistake. He is the future of the sport. Shame Shame Shame...Herb Hearn is running loose as a goose right now.

You've just let us know it's a nationalistic thing with you. I already knew this, but it's nice to see you put those words out for anyone who wants to see.

Which Promoter is paying the opponent of their Heavyweight more than Hearn is?

Why are their guys not selling or generating any money? Why are they losing millions on these joke cowards? Hearn isn't losing a penny on AJ. Why are they willing to fight each other for much less than on offer for AJ?

We know who is to blame. And it ain't Hearn. I'm glad he's about to rid us of the scum bags in the US. About time too.

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definitely not greatness, the level of competition isn't there without fighting each other.

we may get to see these fights at some point but it will more than likely be when someone picks up a loss a bit like Pac vs Floyd. seems like it's becoming harder and harder to make these big fights because of networks investing so much in these fighters. I can only see it getting worse before it gets better

The common denominator is Wilder and Floyd. Where are they from? Now go and check other fights not happening from fighters from those shores. You'll see it yourself.

Davis doesn't want Loma. Thurman is saying no until 2020 for Spence and so on and so on...

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Greed and Joshua will always be remembered for not being great but for not fighting fury or wilder end of story!

AJ is the greedy one even though he brings 90% of the money to the table? Fury and Wilder bring nothing much but they want half. That's greed.

Go and ask a big business to give you 20% of their profits for no reason. If they say no, just call them greedy. Look at the way they look at you. They see a freak who is beyond delusional. They'll probably call the police as they'll think you've escaped from a mental asylum or some shlt.

That's how I look at those like yourself when a see posts like this load of bullshlt.

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It's really simple. It's all about control. Plain and simple. With Arum , Haymon and Hearn (with Hearn having the biggest peice of the pie) nobody wants to give ground. Wilder had every right to turn down that deal from DAZN. AJ isn't even signed to DAZN as he does everything on a fight by fight basis. So i can't understand why people are so eager for Wilder to sign. Where is this same energy for AJ to sign exclusively to DAZN?

Truth is the Wilder/AJ fight is too big to remain on an app. Period!!! Wilder signing to DAZN would benefit DAZN and DAZN only. If people really think that Haymon is going to let that happen then guess again. Showtime will have their part in this fight as this will be a split site. No need for Wilder to sign his life away.

Where then is the counter offer from Al for the fight to take place on Showtime? Why are they saying no until 2020?

The next offer from DAZN will just be 2 fights with AJ. The 2 fights Wilder was screaming for just like his fans. Then he can f3ck off to wherever he pleases. No one is asking for him to sign his life away by paying more money for one fight than his whole career combined. To put it like this is deranged and nothing but a pathetic excuse to anyone with a brain.

We're not buying it. Wilder and his fans are as cowardly as each other. They're a match made in hell.

[Sid-Knee]

Dry your tears my friend.

Don't really understand your point thats being directed at me with all this crying.

I think you understand perfectly.

I don't consider you one of those that needs to f3ck off, but you're definitely a nearly man. You're close to it.

Wilder wouldn't be able to run if everyone saw things for what they truly are and called him out on it. Hell, even when Wilder said he isn't fighting AJ next, the host actually thought AJ was still the one ducking. That's the "Quality" we get from those overseas. No one is professional. No one exists inside f3cking reality it seems.

[chaosisme]

Pretty sure they meant "this BOXING era". You have guys like Thurman comparing a potential fight with Spence to Mayweather/Pacquiao and ODH/Trinidad? Jeez.

[BOXING-SCRIBE]

You've just let us know it's a nationalistic thing with you. I already knew this, but it's nice to see you put those words out for anyone who wants to see.

Which Promoter is paying the opponent of their Heavyweight more than Hearn is?

Why are their guys not selling or generating any money? Why are they losing millions on these joke cowards? Hearn isn't losing a penny on AJ. Why are they willing to fight each other for much less than on offer for AJ?

We know who is to blame. And it ain't Hearn. I'm glad he's about to rid us of the scum bags in the US. About time too.

For God and Country I'll go to the end. In boxing, you rep by country, not city, so of course it is a nation thing, but for you too Sydney!!
I low key gave Herb Hearn credit, he picked up Haney when he was still affordable. Aj is not going to fight wilder any time soon.