Comments Thread For: Breazeale: I Think The Referee Stopped it a Little Early!

[Ray*]

A lot of his opponents act like they've been shot after that right hand. What a beast.

That’s the thing, power is power and he knows how to land that right hand. Anyone thinking Joshua is going to beat Wilder, need to go have a look at Joshua’s defence and how he avoids right hands. Unless Joshua bullies Wilder early and stops him, I don’t see Joshua surviving Wilder.

[MulaKO]

Both the Fury and Breazeale fight would have been waved off here, especially if the fighter that landed that punch was British.

Thanks brother
Not being an ass , just a legitimate question
I noticed this it’s been awhile , just wanted some input from “ different “ people

[diplo]

That’s the thing, power is power and he knows how to land that right hand. Anyone thinking Joshua is going to beat Wilder, need to go have a look at Joshua’s defence and how he avoids right hands. Unless Joshua bullies Wilder early and stops him, I don’t see Joshua surviving Wilder.

AJ easily has the power to KO anyone, including Wilder. It's just a case of who lands that shot first. AJ hits harder than Fury, but isn't as slick and elusive. Fury had been tagging Wilder all night, if he'd had AJ's power then Wilder would have gone. And as skilful as Fury is he still got floored eventually. AJ is not as slick, so I would expect him to get caught earlier, and probably out.

[MulaKO]

I think it depends on too many things (weight, reputation of the KO-er and the KO'd, how much of a beating they'd been taking), and the balls or IQ of the ref, to say that about British refs wave off fights early across the board.

I would say there's many American refs who call break way too quickly, whereas British refs seem to let them punch it out. And most of the compilations of bad (i.e. way too late) stoppages I've seen have been American refs. But I wouldn't like to generalise and say it's a British or American thing necessarily.

I don't think any ref would have been criticised tonight for stopping the count on Breazeale, given he received the hit from Wilder, who is clearly a monster puncher. Personally I appreciate he gave him the full count, because he wasn't out cold (well apart from on his way down), and it's a title fight, and it was the first round, so it's not like he'd been battered for 10 rounds already.

Just something I’ve noticed over the years with British refs
I’m not an American or British for that matter
Just something I noticed
If I’m not mistaken , an incident happened today in Glasgow with an early stoppage but I was with my young ones and couldn’t make out if the ref was British or not but it was clearly an early stoppage
Thanks though for your input

[Gideon lock]

That’s the thing, power is power and he knows how to land that right hand. Anyone thinking Joshua is going to beat Wilder, need to go have a look at Joshua’s defence and how he avoids right hands. Unless Joshua bullies Wilder early and stops him, I don’t see Joshua surviving Wilder.

That's a very good point you put across. If a 40 year old klitschko can land the right on AJ i have no doubts wilder who has more explosive athleticism can land repeatedly.

I have the fight 60/40 in wilders favour.

[Eff Pandas]

Think he was up in time, but he would have got hurt badly as he was still in Lala land

Looked like the ref said 10 before he was up to me. I don't think he made much of a move to get up til he was on 8. I think he was out of it.

[Ray*]

Thanks brother
Not being an ass , just a legitimate question
I noticed this it’s been awhile , just wanted some input from “ different “ people

You welcome sir, not an issue at all. This is why we are here. To discuss boxing like adults, get different opinions, obviously we are going to differ from time to time but it’s all in the spirit of the sport that we all love. I might not agree with you or everyone on certain things but I can respect that is your opinion or input.

[Ray*]

AJ easily has the power to KO anyone, including Wilder. It's just a case of who lands that shot first. AJ hits harder than Fury, but isn't as slick and elusive. Fury had been tagging Wilder all night, if he'd had AJ's power then Wilder would have gone. And as skilful as Fury is he still got floored eventually. AJ is not as slick, so I would expect him to get caught earlier, and probably out.

That’s the thing, I try to look at it from both sides. Like you said Joshua has more power than Fury and probably Breazeale, and if lands on Wilder like those two did (Breazeale briefly with those two right hands), then obviously Wilder would be in trouble.

But Joshua for me is too stiff, I know he has tried a bit to change that, this is why am writing him off if that fight happens this year or early 2020, if Wilder continues to stall this fight until late 2020/2021 over money. Then he would have given Joshua a massive chance to catch up to him.

I see this two ways, if Wilder wants legacy and the undisputed then he takes the fight now, if he wants money like he has been doing then he would continue to let it marinate by fighting Ortiz and Kownacki, which would give Joshua a better chance to tighten up his defence and beat Wilder..

But that’s just my honest opinion.

[Ray*]

That's a very good point you put across. If a 40 year old klitschko can land the right on AJ i have no doubts wilder who has more explosive athleticism can land repeatedly.

I have the fight 60/40 in wilders favour.

Right now it’s 65/35 in Wilder favour, I want to agree with you and say 60/40 but I want to see how Joshua defence look against Ruiz. The reason I said that is because Ruiz has fast hands like Wilder and his throws a lot of right hands, I want to see Joshua’s defence in that fight.

[MulaKO]

You welcome sir, not an issue at all. This is why we are here. To discuss boxing like adults, get different opinions, obviously we are going to differ from time to time but it’s all in the spirit of the sport that we all love. I might not agree with you or everyone on certain things but I can respect that is your opinion or input.

You are a wise man Ray
A very wise man
Used to enjoy this site very much , before the whole Pac-May and now we have A vs W chit
It’s unfortunate but I believe tonight’s victory by Wilder will be the beginning of negotiations as long as AJ wins
Get that fughin fight done and then we can have boxing discussions without it leading to the same chit : promoters vs networks etc etc