Need to do the third fight between GGG and Canelo as GGG didn’t lose that last fight. The winner can fight Deverchenko, so he gets his title shot
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Originally posted by Blueboy3 View PostWell yes Andrade makes all the sense in the world thats the only fight that can trump a mando, but everyone knows how the IBF roll, they mandate an eliminator of whats in the rankings and they give dudes shots right away or go unify to trump it, Consistency is all I want in a belt organization, Maybe it would've been a Charlo had he fought for the IBF, He and D.chenko are in PBC, Charlo could've knock him off the rankings and got his shot straight away. Look at Errol Spence, he got his shot straight away fighting just one eliminator to fight brook coming off a broken eye socket and no one was complaining how fast he got his shot. And who else is mandating fights, WBC WBA ain't doing ****. WBC has Jermall waiting 2 years to get his shot.
A Culcay W shouldn't be getting ANYONE a mando fight. Thats my bottom line on this situation.
Dig the concept, had the practice.
And Spence was a deserving mando. I'm not saying there aren't deserving mando's. But the guy the IBF pushed on Spence last year wasn't one of them. And neither is Derevyanchenko now. And I'm sure I could think of a lot more other bs IBF mando's if I actually researched it more.
We are just gonna have to agree to disagree on calling a bs mando a bs mando. And I don't see nothing wrong with that at all. I can praise the concept & praise the mando's that make sense while calling the bs mando's bs.
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I remember when Derevyanchenko was some sort of boogieman and GGG 'ducked' him lol. Then Derevyanchenko lost to Jacobs and people realised he wasn't that great. I would rather Canelo vacate than take this fight, much bigger fights to be made, and the IBG needs to sort their s*** out.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostLike I just said in another post I actually like that the IBF is aggressive with mando's IN THEORY. The problem is the PRACTICE of the mando's they put forth make no damn sense far too often.
A Culcay W shouldn't be getting ANYONE a mando fight. Thats my bottom line on this situation.
Dig the concept, had the practice.
And Spence was a deserving mando. I'm not saying there aren't deserving mando's. But the guy the IBF pushed on Spence last year wasn't one of them. And neither is Derevyanchenko now. And I'm sure I could think of a lot more other bs IBF mando's if I actually researched it more.
We are just gonna have to agree to disagree on calling a bs mando a bs mando. And I don't see nothing wrong with that at all. I can praise the concept & praise the mando's that make sense while calling the bs mando's bs.
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Originally posted by Blueboy3 View PostYou fans are so ****** I swear, IBF is pushing Canelo to fight Andrade or a top 10 MW and you fans are pissed at the IBF lol. oh yeah lets see GGG/Canelo for the 8th time. Maybe if Charlo was smart enough he could've fought for the IBF and got his shot quickly, hell D.chenko is with the PBC, he could've fought him to take his place in the IBF.
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Originally posted by Blueboy3 View Postfair enough and btw I don't like the Segey fight much, I want Canelo to push for undisputed to trump the mando
In a letter sent via email to Robert Diaz of Golden Boy Promotions, Alvarez's promoter, the IBF informed the company and Alvarez that the mandatory title defense is "due on or before Aug. 4" and gave them contact information for Derevyanchenko promoter Lou DiBella to begin talks.
"Negotiations should commence immediately and be concluded by June 15, 2019," the IBF wrote.
If the camps don't make a deal by the deadline, the IBF will order a purse bid with the highest bidder gaining promotional control of the fight.
Andrades next fight is in june 22nd, cant even make a deal there...
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If you are Canelo Alvarez fan then you should love this fight. This would be vintage Ginger all over again.
He has a very slow stationary opponent in front of him who can't hit or move. Just watch the beautiful display of counter combination punching and body shots by Canelo.
In moments like these he typically shines; Especially against Euros not named Gennady Golovkin. He only struggles against American fighters because of their speed and quickness.
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The problem isn't just the IBF creating a shyt mandatory also it's the timing. Canelo just fought the IBF champ and they know he already has 2 other belts with mandatories lined up to defend ahead of the IBF in the rotation. They also know he is the biggest super star in boxing who fights exclusively on the Mexican holidays with May and Sept being the unnofficial super bowl dates of boxing because of him fighting on those dates. They know he wants to become undisputed and they know Andrade holds the final belt and doesn't fight until June 28. They know one of the biggest fights in boxing is a 3rd fight with GGG who doesn't fight until June 8.
So now that we have that background layed out why is the IBF according to fat boy Dan demanding that Canelo fight this ****** mandatory not only his next fight but on or before Aug 4? You know canelo will never fight that day or before he is fighting in Sept no matter what yet the IBF just demanded this fight on a impossible timeline. Hell they demanded that he come to agreement with Dervy's promoter before June 15 so he can't even wait to see who wins the Andrade fight or decide to unify because by their rules he would be stripped before that fight even takes place. And he would have only 1 week to come to terms with GGG before he would be stripped. Does this sound reasonable to anyone?
So it's bad enough that clown Dervy already got a mandatory ordered title shot barely 6 months ago he lost now he gets another 1 this fast? And you put in ridiculous timelines forcing canelo to fight on dates that would cost him millions and tell him decide before Andrade even fights if you want our belt or not??
Lou paid IBF off to get Dervy a eliminator after losing to Jacobs then to have them issue a ridiculous timeline to decide and fight by. There have been other fights where the IBF were not this aggressive in when and how they created and ordered mandatories. Fans want to see canelo fight any of the half dozen fighters he is considering for Sept and fans want to see a undisputed middleweight champ. This decision doesn't benefit anyone except Dervy and his promoter Lou. So yeah i still maintain some body got paid off Lou is the only one benefiting here and he and IBF based out of NJ/NY.Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-15-2019, 08:06 PM.
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If Canelo fights Andrade next he loses in my opinion; Because Demetrius is a slippery southpaw boxer with both fast hands, feet and height.
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Originally posted by icha View Postthats not even an option for canelo, thats how ****ty the ibf is rushing canelo...
In a letter sent via email to Robert Diaz of Golden Boy Promotions, Alvarez's promoter, the IBF informed the company and Alvarez that the mandatory title defense is "due on or before Aug. 4" and gave them contact information for Derevyanchenko promoter Lou DiBella to begin talks.
"Negotiations should commence immediately and be concluded by June 15, 2019," the IBF wrote.
If the camps don't make a deal by the deadline, the IBF will order a purse bid with the highest bidder gaining promotional control of the fight.
Andrades next fight is in june 22nd, cant even make a deal there...
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