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  • Originally posted by R-C View Post
    What do you mean you count those wins? He beat them whether you like it or not.

    He beat Cotto on his comfortable weight

    He beat Lara 7-5 (I do think that Lara should blame himself)

    He beat GGG on his own game

    And Jacob's fight was not even close, you need to learn how to score or maybe you just blinded hate against Canelo is preventing you to have a rational scoring
    That clown is an antiLatino & AntiBlack pro White KKKonservatard

    makes religious people like me look bad too!

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    • Originally posted by Bboy1987 View Post
      I would definitely take Canelo over Loma without question. I have a problem with a guy who only fought 14 times and actually lost 1 even being on the pound for pound list. To make matters worse, that loss was to Orlando Salido, who isn’t terrible but is certainly not an all time great. I will admit that Canelo was given a gift over Lara though.
      You don’t have a problem with a dirty PEDs boxer who keeps edging decisions, but you have a problem with someone who lost a split decision fight in his second pro career, bboy you are tripping......... ROFL

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      • Originally posted by Mr.365 View Post
        That clown is an antiLatino & AntiBlack pro White KKKonservatard

        makes religious people like me look bad too!
        Whats wrong with being pro white ?

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        • The problem is the writer exposed himself because for years he justified putting Manny Pacquiao #1 P4P and ahead of Floyd as fighter of the decade stating that undefeated winning by more dominating manner was meaningless because he said Manny was fighting better level of competition and that made up for losses, draws, and countless contraversal wins Pacquiao had. Just hear him say it your self

          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=814657

          Now he is ripping up his own rules to find anyway to now take credit away from canelo. lol

          The man clearly hates or has some agenda against black and mexican fighters. Used bogus reasoning to rob floyd of fighter of the decade and then flipped that and came up with a new way to try and take #1 P4P away from canelo who deserves that mantle more then any fighter today
          Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-11-2019, 07:57 PM.

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          • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            The problem is the writer exposed himself because for years he justified putting Manny Pacquiao #1 P4P and ahead of Floyd as fighter of the decade stating that undefeated winning by more dominating manner was meaningless because he said Manny was fighting better level of competition and that made up for losses, draws, and countless contraversal wins Pacquiao had. Just hear him say it your self

            https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=814657

            Now he is ripping up his own rules to find anyway to now take credit away from canelo. lol

            The man clearly hates or has some agenda against black and mexican fighters. Used bogus reasoning to rob floyd of fighter of the decade and then flipped that and came up with a new way to try and take #1 P4P away from canelo who deserves that mantle more then any fighter today
            Very well said. Never seen this level of hate against a fighter who took on and beat everyone he was supposed to. Gets accused of ducking, fights those fights and wins, then still gets criticized. Alvarez is p4p #1. I have Loma #2. Not many other fighters with their body of work. Stop hating.

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            • Canelo is #1, the mere fact you have to write this article in attempts to dissuade the masses from believing Canelo is #1 is further certification of his status as the overall BEST

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              • Originally posted by GBP4LIFE View Post
                Canelo is #1, the mere fact you have to write this article in attempts to dissuade the masses from believing Canelo is #1 is further certification of his status as the overall BEST
                Exactly, that was one of my points.

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                • Originally posted by revelated View Post
                  He SPECIFICALLY called out 160 bro. Not lightweight. That's the flaw in your logic.

                  At lightweight, speed and timing are your dominant traits. Your weaknesses are fighters who are durable and strong who don't fall for the okie doke.

                  At 154 and up, power and/or defense are your dominant traits. Your weaknesses are fighters that can time you and are faster than you.

                  When is the only time Canelo Alvarez has been even near beaten? When he got timed.

                  At 160, neither Loma or Crawford has the timing or speed to connect on Canelo.


                  nope

                  P4P is based on the latin Ceteris Paribus..... all things being equal

                  it is not about picking a weight, one that will obviously suit one fighter over another..... it is about both guys being naturally the same size, regardless as to the weight

                  the writer used middleweight as an example, but he could have just as easily used lightweight, welter, etc.....

                  pick a weight..... any weight, because it does not matter..... say, bantam..... and then imagine that fight happening if both guys were naturally 118

                  P4P is a matchup of styles

                  it would be VERY tough for Canelo, but there likely isn't too much in it truth be known

                  like I said last week..... the top 3 look to be a level above everyone else on that list

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                  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    nope

                    P4P is based on the latin Ceteris Paribus..... all things being equal

                    it is not about picking a weight, one that will obviously suit one fighter over another..... it is about both guys being naturally the same size, regardless as to the weight

                    the writer used middleweight as an example, but he could have just as easily used lightweight, welter, etc.....

                    pick a weight..... any weight, because it does not matter..... say, bantam..... and then imagine that fight happening if both guys were naturally 118

                    P4P is a matchup of styles

                    it would be VERY tough for Canelo, but there likely isn't too much in it truth be known

                    like I said last week..... the top 3 look to be a level above everyone else on that list
                    No, that's BS. You can't imagine a fighter who was naturally large to begin with fighting in extreme lower weight classes.

                    There's NO DAMN WAY you're picturing James Toney vs. Roy Jones at 135. Yet many people had both those guys P4P at one point. Why? The weight didn't matter. Resume mattered.

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                    • I have Canelo at #3 behind Crawford and Loma. Canelo fights everybody and shows new wrinkles to his game every time out. He's legit regardless of who wants to discredit him.

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