Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez is an Excellent Fighter... But Not The Best

[Combat Talk Radio]

if resume matters.... then Pacquiao is obviously #1..... and Golovkin is obviously removed from the list.....

obviously

YOU did that

of ACTIVE fighters? HELL no. Canelo has beaten more Hall of Famers than Manny's ever fought bro.

[Shape up]

Mayweather did it late in his career and he's considered a top 20 ATG by some here.

Is it late in Canelo career

[Shape up]

155 was the most fair thing for Khan. Cotto wanted 155 too. Lara, Kirkland, and Angulo fought significantly more times than Canelo at 155 before those matches even started. Lol. Keep trying.

LARA's 155+ fights...

158 - Lara vs Maslov
154.5 - Lara vs Gross
155 - Lara vs Gray
155 - Lara vs Boone
155 - Lara vs Varela
155.5 - Lara vs Perez
156.5 - Lara vs Correa
155 - Lara vs Perez
156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
155 - Lara vs Alvarez


KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
156 - Kirkland vs Vera
162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

ANGULO's 155+ fights...

156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
157 - Angulo vs Mada
156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
155 - Angulo vs Rosado
154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
162 - Angulo vs Rosa
162 - Angulo vs Raines
163 - Angulo vs Munoz
164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez

Really, is 155 a stipulation trying to get an advantage, YES, now what about the 2nd day weigh ins, dropping belts to avoid fights and being popped with PEDS, pull your head out of Canelo arse fangirl

[Thuglife Nelo]

Really, is 155 a stipulation trying to get an advantage, YES, now what about the 2nd day weigh ins, dropping belts to avoid fights and being popped with PEDS, pull your head out of Canelo arse fangirl

Lol. “Stipulation.” “Belt(s).” Nobody in industry talks those things because before advanced drug testing was the dark age in boxing, 1970’s-2010.

WAR CANELO! We in dis thang mayne!

[Shape up]

Lol. “Stipulation.” “Belt(s).” Nobody in industry talks those things because before advanced drug testing was the dark age in boxing, 1970’s-2010.

WAR CANELO! We in dis thang mayne!

What a weak answer, nothing less than I would expect from a fangirl

[Citizen Koba]

Why the sport supports this act of ******ation, putting some random shlt above a proven resume is beyond me.

Once a guys superior resume is ignored just so a fan can make room for their hero, what's the point ?!?!?!?!

Rhetorical question. I wouldn't want you to waste your time.

******ation huh?

Tell you what, why don't we imagine a hypothetical scenario in which two top fighters have each fought the same #3 and #4 in the division? Difference is fighter A has also fought the #5 and #6 whilst fighter B has only fought other guys in the top 10 - 15. Fighter 'A' barely sc****s past all his opponents by disputed SD, whilst fighter 'B' dominates or KOs common opponents (and all his other opponents) out of the water.

With the scalps of the divisional #3, #4, #5 and #6 fighter 'A' clearly has the better resume... you still gonna make that the argument resume is the ONLY deciding factor in how we should all rate fighters?

You do it your way, man, but how about you recognise that other people have their own perfectly legitimate ways of figuring these things 'stead of calling folk silly names?

[Thuglife Nelo]

What a weak answer, nothing less than I would expect from a fangirl

Canelo All day errrday!

[TonyGe]

of ACTIVE fighters? HELL no. Canelo has beaten more Hall of Famers than Manny's ever fought bro.

Hmm you might want to fact check that..

[TonyGe]

155 was the most fair thing for Khan. Cotto wanted 155 too. Lara, Kirkland, and Angulo fought significantly more times than Canelo at 155 before those matches even started. Lol. Keep trying.

LARA's 155+ fights...

158 - Lara vs Maslov
154.5 - Lara vs Gross
155 - Lara vs Gray
155 - Lara vs Boone
155 - Lara vs Varela
155.5 - Lara vs Perez
156.5 - Lara vs Correa
155 - Lara vs Perez
156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
155 - Lara vs Alvarez


KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
156 - Kirkland vs Vera
162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

ANGULO's 155+ fights...

156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
157 - Angulo vs Mada
156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
155 - Angulo vs Rosado
154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
162 - Angulo vs Rosa
162 - Angulo vs Raines
163 - Angulo vs Munoz
164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez

So if other fighters get away with crap it's OK for everyone to get away with crap.

[TonyGe]

Why the sport supports this act of ******ation, putting some random shlt above a proven resume is beyond me.

Once a guys superior resume is ignored just so a fan can make room for their hero, what's the point ?!?!?!?!

Rhetorical question. I wouldn't want you to waste your time.

A name on a resume is only a name nothing else. The name is only significant if it represents a credible challenge at the time of the fight. Rocky Marciano has Joe Louis on his resume. Not the Joe Louis that was in his prime. It's a nice win but not earth shaking. Cotto beat Martinez. Martinez was damaged goods.
Tyson beat Micheal Spinks.
Etc. etc....
Rating fighters primarily by their resume is not an accurate way of rating fighters. P4P lists are subjective enough without adding poor logic to the mix.