Per ESPN Canelo vs Jacobs generated more then 48M in subscriptions

[The Big Dunn]

Jacobs knockout this weekend was great just like you predicted. By the way have you paid Robbie Barret? Oh and DAZN doesn't even have 500K subscribers lol

And why would buyers think they are attractive you said they were hemorrhaging money and about to fold any time now?

Lance Pugmire posted a tweet where sources told him the 600k concurrent streams is an indication of how many USA subscriptions Dazn has sold.

You keep floating that 1 million figure because it looks better for a product you fully support. I don’t see why you argue so vehemently if other posters cite sources that don’t have Dazn meeting their expectations.

You are taking this very personally when it’s just posters discussing the positives and the negatives. You’re a solid poster but your behavior relative to this topic has been extremely biased and immature.

Dazn May turn out to be great. Right now it’s going through the same growing pains any company does. Pointing out the shortcomings doesn’t mean anyone wants it to fail or signs that there is a conspiracy against Dazn. Arbitrarily citing positive sales doesn’t make it better.

[sunny31]

You're not understanding what I'm getting at, but that's ok. It's an income vs expense thing and it's nothing to do with size, it's a universal business principle. The fact that they're adding more content doesn't just mean they'll pull in more money, often that means greater expense. They need filler to keep annual subs but the real money comes from major events like this where they need to pull in mad subs. 48m off this, given the fact that many people won't pay a dime for another year (and you'll have to spend a lot of money to keep them happy so they re-sub), looks bad to me.

I'm not sure your understanding him, they are taking a long term view. Surely the goal is to get to as many subscribers as possible? I'm sure they see this as a success otherwise they wouldn't have given a PR release. When you do the math, they don't need SO many continuous US subscribers to cover boxing costs or into profit, this show has probably gone a long way to achieving that ultimate figure, but I'm sure they still have quite a way to go. 600k US subscribers is very good for something nobody had heard of until last year. I'm sure after Joshua, GGG, and Canelo's second fight fight they will be well over 1m.

But your last point is the key one, keeping fans happy, and keeping them subscribed long term. The content has to be up to scratch and probably at some point they'll have to diversify into other sports. But of course it is always a situation of cost vs revenue.

[Toffee]

You're not understanding what I'm getting at, but that's ok. It's an income vs expense thing and it's nothing to do with size, it's a universal business principle. The fact that they're adding more content doesn't just mean they'll pull in more money, often that means greater expense. They need filler to keep annual subs but the real money comes from major events like this where they need to pull in mad subs. 48m off this, given the fact that many people won't pay a dime for another year (and you'll have to spend a lot of money to keep them happy so they re-sub), looks bad to me.

They've already got millions of active subscribers.

There's no way that their number one priority isn't growth. 100% they're targeting growth.

They're achieving insane growth. And just about every sports fan on the planet is a potential customer.

I wouldn't feel too bad for them.

[Eff Pandas]

You're not understanding what I'm getting at, but that's ok. It's an income vs expense thing and it's nothing to do with size, it's a universal business principle. The fact that they're adding more content doesn't just mean they'll pull in more money, often that means greater expense. They need filler to keep annual subs but the real money comes from major events like this where they need to pull in mad subs. 48m off this, given the fact that many people won't pay a dime for another year (and you'll have to spend a lot of money to keep them happy so they re-sub), looks bad to me.

Its a universal business principle, but the timeline for completing that isn't a hard date. Your bankroll matters too in how long you can hang around. And sure it'll mean a greater expense to add content.

Netflix was flushing money for 7 to 8 years. Amazon flushed money for well over a decade. ESPN flushed money for 6 or 7 years when they came on the scene in a much less competitive & less expensive sports content market. Tesla is flushing money as we speak from what I understand & just had a loss of $700M in the 1st quarter of this year cuz I just ran into that headline a week or two ago. DAZN is a couple years into their run & less than a year into their entry into the US. They are a baby still.

This is a long game. DAZN isn't going anywhere. Some of these major sports rights are several billion dollars a year to purchase. Canelo fights ain't even a turd in the punch bowl at that party DAZN is trying to crash. You don't get into the live sports rights game worried about going broke on boxing.

[EnglishOxide]

Everybody on here thinking they are business experts

Shut up and enjoy the boxing content DAZN provides. If you do that then they will naturally grow and provide more of that content.

Don't worry about their numbers, I'm sure they know what they're doing, they have grown hugely since their launch in 2016. You dorks on the internet worrying about their finances need to get a life.

[Stinger1]

Lance Pugmire posted a tweet where sources told him the 600k concurrent streams is an indication of how many USA subscriptions Dazn has sold.

You keep floating that 1 million figure because it looks better for a product you fully support. I don’t see why you argue so vehemently if other posters cite sources that don’t have Dazn meeting their expectations.

You are taking this very personally when it’s just posters discussing the positives and the negatives. You’re a solid poster but your behavior relative to this topic has been extremely biased and immature.

Dazn May turn out to be great. Right now it’s going through the same growing pains any company does. Pointing out the shortcomings doesn’t mean anyone wants it to fail or signs that there is a conspiracy against Dazn. Arbitrarily citing positive sales doesn’t make it better.

The 600,000 figure is those who watched live. Some might of watched later or the next day. Bellator was pulling in over a million views on Spike for some of their shows so many Bellator fans will be subscribing to DAZN too. If DAZN aren't at 1 million subs already they're probably not far off.

[Thuglife Nelo]

DAZN, DAZN, DAZN, DAZN, DAZN, DAZN, DAZN, DAZN..
Now tell me whatcha gonna do
When there ain't no where to run (tell me what)
(When judgment comes for you, when judgment comes for you)
And whatcha gonna do
When there aint no where to hide (tell me what)
When judgment comes for you ('cause it's gonna come for you)

[bigdunny1]

Lance Pugmire posted a tweet where sources told him the 600k concurrent streams is an indication of how many USA subscriptions Dazn has sold.

You keep floating that 1 million figure because it looks better for a product you fully support. I don’t see why you argue so vehemently if other posters cite sources that don’t have Dazn meeting their expectations.

You are taking this very personally when it’s just posters discussing the positives and the negatives. You’re a solid poster but your behavior relative to this topic has been extremely biased and immature.

Dazn May turn out to be great. Right now it’s going through the same growing pains any company does. Pointing out the shortcomings doesn’t mean anyone wants it to fail or signs that there is a conspiracy against Dazn. Arbitrarily citing positive sales doesn’t make it better.

Can't do 48M from 600k subscription and anyone who thinks everyone who owns a subscription is all on line using the app at the same time is a idiot. That's not how app services work you never get everyone on at the same time. 2 sources before the fight said they were close to 1M subscribers. Now ESPN says the subscribers revenue made over 48M which basically proves what those sources said before the fight.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Can't do 48M from 600k subscription and anyone who thinks everyone who owns a subscription is all on line using the app at the same time is a idiot. That's not how app services work you never get everyone on at the same time. 2 sources before the fight said they were close to 1M subscribers. Now ESPN says he was told the subscribers revenue made over 48M which basically proves what those sources said before the fight.

Correcto mundo. There are no headlines that say ''DAZN reports that every single subscriber had watched Canelo vs Jacobs...''

It proves that DAZN has content for non boxing fan subscribers, many DAZN subs didn't tune into it..

derp derp derp....

[bigdunny1]

The 600,000 figure is those who watched live. Some might of watched later or the next day. Bellator was pulling in over a million views on Spike for some of their shows so many Bellator fans will be subscribing to DAZN too. If DAZN aren't at 1 million subs already they're probably not far off.

This idiot thinks that nobody has a subscription other then to see canelo fight despite the fact that DAZN has other sports and not all of then care about canelo. Plus many people who have a subscription don't watch the fight live or where actually at the fight or at Vegas or like me at a friend's house party there are many reason why all the subscribers are not actually watching live at the same time. No app gets 100% percent attendance where all subscribers are streaming at the same damn time. It's ludicrous to think that because the beauty of these apps is everything is ondemand where you can watch on your own timetable. It was logical that the subscribers would be more then the live watch amount but ESPN now proving it with subscription revenue amount for the slow idiots.