Per ESPN Canelo vs Jacobs generated more then 48M in subscriptions

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #51
    Originally posted by bigdunny1
    This idiot thinks that nobody has a subscription other then to see canelo fight despite the fact that DAZN has other sports and not all of then care about canelo. Plus many people who have a subscription don't watch the fight live or where actually at the fight or at Vegas or like me at a friend's house party there are many reason why all the subscribers are not actually watching live at the same time. No app gets 100% percent attendance where all subscribers are streaming at the same damn time. It's ludicrous to think that because the beauty of these apps is everything is ondemand where you can watch on your own timetable. It was logical that the subscribers would be more then the live watch amount but ESPN now proving it with subscription revenue amount for the slow idiots.
    a lot of these LDBC conspirators on this site, with many vets here before the Liars Den came about, were sadly brainwashed by these channels and its propaganda, all because they love hearing hate towards Hearn and GBP... I mean if there was an audience for Jerry Springer, then hey it's possible!

    the same posters continue to justify non-success for DAZN.

    I keep saying this. what groups of thugs looks at an unfinished skysc****r to say, ''dawg, it's not going to be successful, they're putting too much money into it and they're only at the 34th floor.''

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    • Johnny2x2x
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      #52
      For me, it’s pretty simple. $20 for PPV fights I want to see then I cancel. I got 1 month.

      Great value.

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        #53
        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        Can't do 48M from 600k subscription and anyone who thinks everyone who owns a subscription is all on line using the app at the same time is a idiot. That's not how app services work you never get everyone on at the same time. 2 sources before the fight said they were close to 1M subscribers. Now ESPN says the subscribers revenue made over 48M which basically proves what those sources said before the fight.
        Yuo're doing it again. The source you cited said "approaching 1 million. As I told you, that is very vague. If Lance Pugmire's source is correct, 600k subs is "approaching 1 mil." The other source, which you didn't post a link, said "close to 1 million". 600k qualifies as "close to 1 million".

        With all due respect, The lack of a solid US number all but confirms it's not meeting expectations. Notice when worldwide subs are discussed a solid figure is given.

        If they know a solid figure for worldwide totals, they know a solid figure for US totals as well.

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        • Lomadeaux
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          #54
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          How do those numbers make sense though? 1 million subs at $15 dollars each = $15 million.

          DAZN does seem excited by the numbers though so maybe there is a revenue stream there I am missing.

          Edit - OK I guess they are using the full revenue of yearly subscriptions bought there towards the $48+ million number. Not taking the $9 annual number.

          If they have 1.2 million subs - if 400k are annual - that's $40 million. Then 800k would be monthly - so that's $16 million.

          So by those numbers they would make $56 million for this fight/month. They seem to really like the numbers though. I wonder what the next few months will look like for them.
          It's about customer retention. Forget what happened with one fight. It's not going to stay. I paid $20 for it and already canceled it.

          It's a poor platform. Horrible customer experience, zero ability to speak with anyone live, lags here and there with the highest internet speed. If you can't watch it on your TV, it's absolutely pointless.

          I do not see how this company is going to stay in business in the long haul.

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          • bigdunny1
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            #55
            Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
            For me, it’s pretty simple. $20 for PPV fights I want to see then I cancel. I got 1 month.

            Great value.
            Only in boxing where you have all the crabs in barrel mentality where you got fans upset and complaining about DAZN and arguing in favor of being forced to pay almost 100 bucks for 1 PPV with the old method in boxing.

            20 bucks a month or 99 bucks for the entire year is a steal unless you are not a boxing fan or have an agenda.

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            • Lomadeaux
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              #56
              Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
              For me, it’s pretty simple. $20 for PPV fights I want to see then I cancel. I got 1 month.

              Great value.
              Exactly. Impossible to stay in business if they're paying guys 30M a fight.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #57
                The DAZN haters be like, ''I cancelled my sub after paying $20...'' lol

                They'll be back again to make another purchase for a fight they want to see, and DAZN made their bread for the $20 buys.

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                • bigdunny1
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Yuo're doing it again. The source you cited said "approaching 1 million. As I told you, that is very vague. If Lance Pugmire's source is correct, 600k subs is "approaching 1 mil." The other source, which you didn't post a link, said "close to 1 million". 600k qualifies as "close to 1 million".

                  With all due respect, The lack of a solid US number all but confirms it's not meeting expectations. Notice when worldwide subs are discussed a solid figure is given.

                  If they know a solid figure for worldwide totals, they know a solid figure for US totals as well.
                  Not meeting expectations? DAZN likes the numbers so much they released the numbers themselves via a press release. You going by lance who makes it clear he is just guessing based off the live viewers amount. But youou disregarded the 2 sources a week before the fight one saying they will hit 1 mil by this weekend the other saying broadly they are approaching 1M subscribers now ESPN saying it did 48M in revenue subscribers making it almost impossible for them to not be at or around 1M subscribers. You can't have 600K subscribers off 48M revenue that's just a fact and it's impossible that every subscriber just happened to be logged in watching at the same time I told you was absurd to think that but we don't have to even entertain that anymore because we know the revenue did over 48M.

                  I don't know why you still on this ledge that they only did 600K subscribers when even the biggest DAZN haters have jumped off that lol
                  Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-09-2019, 08:16 AM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Stinger1
                    The 600,000 figure is those who watched live. Some might of watched later or the next day. Bellator was pulling in over a million views on Spike for some of their shows so many Bellator fans will be subscribing to DAZN too. If DAZN aren't at 1 million subs already they're probably not far off.
                    You are purposely avoiding my point. Lance Pugmire's tweet cited sources that said the 600k figure is about how many subs sold. I don't see why there is an issue. Lance isn't against DAZN or trying to undermine their success.

                    While I don't doubt your point about Bellator, I don't think you can state for sure that those people will be buying DAZN. Even if you are correct that doesn't in any way negate Lance's post.

                    My point is frankie and bigdunny1 keep floating a number that they can't confirm. Then they exaggerate or completely misrepresent what some articles are stating. When called on it, they resort to name calling and racial attacks as if they have been attacked personally.

                    If the app is doing that great they should be able to post solid figures to support their statements.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      Not meeting expectations? DAZN likes the numbers so much they released the numbers themselves via a press release. You going by lance who makes it clear he is just guessing based off the live viewers amount. But youou disregarded the 2 sources a week before the fight one saying they will hit 1 mil by this weekend the other saying broadly they are approaching 1M subscribers now ESPN saying it did 48M in revenue subscribers making it almost impossible for them to not be at or around 1M subscribers. You can't have 600K subscribers off 48M revenue that's just a fact and it's impi that every subscriber just happened to be logged in watching at the same time I told you was absurd to think that but we don't have to even entertain that anymore because we know the revenue did over 48M.

                      I don't know why you still on this ledge that they only did 600K subscribers when even the biggest DAZN haters have jumped off that lol
                      Yup. The article is straight forward. DAZN released the metrics purely for the Canelo Jacobs bout.

                      300,000 x 20 $6,00,000
                      300,000 x 100 $30,000,000

                      average $36,000,000, though they said $48million so MORE people bought the 100 dollar subs than the 20 dollar subs.

                      but to put into perspective.

                      Showtime Spence Garcia did 360,000 x 80 = $29,000,000

                      ESPN PPV plus the $5 app Crawford Khan 150k $11,000,000

                      It's obvious the best VALUE for a Marquee fight plus boxing fans saving money is DAZN while getting a full year's worth.

                      the LDBC feeling salty as fook.

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