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  • LA_2_Vegas
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mammoth
    Are the subs sustainable with their curent roster?
    I don't know enough about their model to really speculate, I was just thinking about the degree to which this expands potential viewers of boxing worldwide.

    I am just hoping that over time the efforts to expand access to boxing reinvigorates the talent pool for the next set of guys who will be trying to maintain subs on DAZN, or ESPN+, or ratings for PBC.

    To your question though - they made the right choice with AJ and Canelo to try to get it going for the first couple of years. It's just a simple: if not them, then who? A different time in boxing, not too long ago, when the HW's were down, there wouldn't have even been an AJ and DAZN really would have had no shot (or at least boxing on DAZN).

    I still wonder if they can build a star. But Vergil Ortiz reminded me - most of that is up to the fighter and fans are going to know it when they see it. That kind of performance was reminiscent of those nights when a kid would show up on HBO and WOW the audience either unexpectedly or right on time. We'll see what happens with Ortiz and Haney, for example.
    Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; 05-08-2019, 11:22 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      Magic. That's what everyone here seems to think. The numbers don't add up. They're going to raise the price again before the end of the year.
      This report just came out today they saw huge drop in debt in 2018 because they are adding subscribers across the world at a exponential rate. As a company they are basically doubling in subscribers every 6 months. Remember the company didn't exist until late 2016 it's not even been around 3 years yet. They launched with 2 countries have been so successful they have doubled the countries every year. They have 5 countries that havent even been around 1 year 3 have only been around a couple months into 2019 with major sports rights they have already aquired but haven't yet aired. They will only keep adding subscribers at a fast pace. Hell they already at 1M subscribers in the US and they only been around 8 months. lol



      DAZN sees debt tumble 93% in 2018

      Posted: May 8 2019By: Tom Bassam

      DAZN, the global over-the-top (OTT) streaming service, enjoyed a strong 2018 as company net debts fell roughly 93 per cent from US$726 million in 2017 to US$50 million up to the end of 2018, according to documents seen by SportsPro.

      DAZN’s borrowing has also fallen from roughly US$980 million to US$275 million over the last financial year.

      DAZN to add advertising partners to OTT platforms

      SportsPro understands that Len Blavatnik’s Access Industries Group, DAZN’s parent company, has invested more than US$600 million into the OTT service after seeing significant levels of growth on the platform.

      In 2018, Access invested US$848 million into DAZN whilst new partners such as Dentsu Aegis invested US$391 million. To this point, DAZN has received around US$2.2 billion in investment since its launch in 2016.

      DAZN has seen exponential growth since its launch in 2016, and even more so between 2017 and 2018.

      DAZN’s revenue also increased by 136.2 per cent from 2017 to 2018, hitting US$277.6 million. The service also saw its income from selling advertising rise by 4.4 per cent to US$77.2 million.

      In addition, DAZN saw increases in income generated across the globe from 2017 to 2018. In Asia this growth was more than US$65.2 million, with the region accounting for 42 per cent of all company revenues; Europe accounts for 44 per cent of the platform’s streaming sales; and the North America region also saw its turnover grow fivefold up to US$14.3 million.

      DAZN lays claim to around four million subscribers worldwide but investments in growing the service and securing new rights deals has seen outgoings double to US$336.6 million.

      Across its active territories, the Hammersmith-based operation holds rights to several global soccer leagues, motorsport series, boxing, the National Football League (NFL), Major League Baseball (MLB) and the National Basketball Association (NBA). Taken as a whole, DAZN Group’s total rights commitments beyond five years as of from April 2019 are US$6.1 billion.

      DAZN has recently made several moves designed to bolster its streaming service. DAZN Group sold its Perform division to Vista Equity Partners, the owners of STATS, earlier this year in a deal which will see the company receive both cash and a significant minority stake in a new business.

      Within the last month the company has also launched a new ad suite based on real-time data, DAZN Dynamics, and its Connect platform, a central hub of live sports feeds aimed to deliver IP and enable clients to consolidate acquisition and distribution of their rights
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-08-2019, 11:13 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Magic. That's what everyone here seems to think. The numbers don't add up. They're going to raise the price again before the end of the year.
        You don't think sports are profitable anymore? Is everyone on Earth tired of sports?

        I got no doubt DAZN is dropping money like a stripper is dropping that ass at Girl Collection, but there is no doubt in my mind you can make money showing sports content in 2019 & beyond.

        Now will it take time to turn a profit? Yea it definitely will.

        Will they have to raise the price or look into alternate billing plans? I'd bet on it.

        But its silly to suggest there is no path to victory here for DAZN in live sports content.

        If they succeed or fail is a long way off to know as I keep saying cuz streaming sh^t is only just getting started & the innovation & customization of streaming has barely started.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas
          The ceiling for DAZN is pretty damn high
          Their room for growth is off the charts. Literally one the most enviable tech companies right now.

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            #25
            The more events, more fighters they pick up the more they would grow. They need to listen to their customers doe. Do surveys and give the customers what they want. I like their energy but they shouldn’t be throwing money around at fighters just because they want them on their platform. A lot of these boxers are not worth a third of what they have been offered. And throwing undeserved money at them would just make them think they are worth more.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ray*
              The more events, more fighters they pick up the more they would grow. They need to listen to their customers doe. Do surveys and give the customers what they want. I like their energy but they shouldn’t be throwing money around at fighters just because they want them on their platform. A lot of these boxers are not worth a third of what they have been offered. And throwing undeserved money at them would just make them think they are worth more.
              It's a arms race right now. It's never been a better time for fighters with all the money and dates available. But at some point you would think it will stablize

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                You don't think sports are profitable anymore? Is everyone on Earth tired of sports?

                I got no doubt DAZN is dropping money like a stripper is dropping that ass at Girl Collection, but there is no doubt in my mind you can make money showing sports content in 2019 & beyond.

                Now will it take time to turn a profit? Yea it definitely will.

                Will they have to raise the price or look into alternate billing plans? I'd bet on it.

                But its silly to suggest there is no path to victory here for DAZN in live sports content.

                If they succeed or fail is a long way off to know as I keep saying cuz streaming sh^t is only just getting started & the innovation & customization of streaming has barely started.
                If DAZN secures a major sports rights how much do you think it'll cost per month?

                What happens if they don't second major sports rights?
                Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 05-09-2019, 01:18 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  This report just came out today they saw huge drop in debt in 2018 because they are adding subscribers across the world at a exponential rate. As a company they are basically doubling in subscribers every 6 months. Remember the company didn't exist until late 2016 it's not even been around 3 years yet. They launched with 2 countries have been so successful they have doubled the countries every year. They have 5 countries that havent even been around 1 year 3 have only been around a couple months into 2019 with major sports rights they have already aquired but haven't yet aired. They will only keep adding subscribers at a fast pace. Hell they already at 1M subscribers in the US and they only been around 8 months. lol



                  DAZN sees debt tumble 93% in 2018

                  Posted: May 8 2019By: Tom Bassam

                  DAZN, the global over-the-top (OTT) streaming service, enjoyed a strong 2018 as company net debts fell roughly 93 per cent from US$726 million in 2017 to US$50 million up to the end of 2018, according to documents seen by SportsPro.

                  DAZN’s borrowing has also fallen from roughly US$980 million to US$275 million over the last financial year.

                  DAZN to add advertising partners to OTT platforms

                  SportsPro understands that Len Blavatnik’s Access Industries Group, DAZN’s parent company, has invested more than US$600 million into the OTT service after seeing significant levels of growth on the platform.

                  In 2018, Access invested US$848 million into DAZN whilst new partners such as Dentsu Aegis invested US$391 million. To this point, DAZN has received around US$2.2 billion in investment since its launch in 2016.

                  DAZN has seen exponential growth since its launch in 2016, and even more so between 2017 and 2018.

                  DAZN’s revenue also increased by 136.2 per cent from 2017 to 2018, hitting US$277.6 million. The service also saw its income from selling advertising rise by 4.4 per cent to US$77.2 million.

                  In addition, DAZN saw increases in income generated across the globe from 2017 to 2018. In Asia this growth was more than US$65.2 million, with the region accounting for 42 per cent of all company revenues; Europe accounts for 44 per cent of the platform’s streaming sales; and the North America region also saw its turnover grow fivefold up to US$14.3 million.

                  DAZN lays claim to around four million subscribers worldwide but investments in growing the service and securing new rights deals has seen outgoings double to US$336.6 million.

                  Across its active territories, the Hammersmith-based operation holds rights to several global soccer leagues, motorsport series, boxing, the National Football League (NFL), Major League Baseball (MLB) and the National Basketball Association (NBA). Taken as a whole, DAZN Group’s total rights commitments beyond five years as of from April 2019 are US$6.1 billion.

                  DAZN has recently made several moves designed to bolster its streaming service. DAZN Group sold its Perform division to Vista Equity Partners, the owners of STATS, earlier this year in a deal which will see the company receive both cash and a significant minority stake in a new business.

                  Within the last month the company has also launched a new ad suite based on real-time data, DAZN Dynamics, and its Connect platform, a central hub of live sports feeds aimed to deliver IP and enable clients to consolidate acquisition and distribution of their rights
                  Pump & dump. Making it look attractive to buyers.

                  But what's really interesting is the XFL went the PBC route

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    If DAZN secures a major sports rights how much do you think it'll cost per month?
                    Who knows. Depends on how they go about it. Like I said I expect pricing changes/options in the future. I also think they could bring in advertisers.

                    More importantly why do you think this isn't got a chance in hell of making it? I think thats the more farfetched stance.

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                      #30
                      That is awesome! It is wonderful that DAZN is making PPV type of fights more affordable for boxing fans. A $100 per year subscription or a $20 per event cost is very reasonable as compared to paying more than a $100 per PPV bout.

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