Why are people acting like Mikey Garcia didn't blatantly duck Lomachenko?

[yankees7448]

... but no big money fights for him at 140...

Yup. Spence showed he can't handle top welterweight fighters so now he has to go down to a less glamorous division. Serves him right for looking for the money over glory.

[yankees7448]

Okay, so he wanted to do negotiations AFTER the Pedraza fight in December. Mikey had already signed the Spence fight a month prior and obviously was in talks with Spence much earlier than that. Once again, tell me where the ducking happened. Arum only started mentioned Mikey as a potential opponent once it became clear the Spence fight was on tap....I mean he started telling the media that fight's not going to happen blah blah blah. But Mikey was already contacting Haymon for the Spence fight right after the Easter fight.

The ducking happened when he started wasting time pursuing the money grab fight with spence. It was a stupid fight for everyone involved. Garcia could have fought someone like Richard Comney or Like Campbell to stay busy. Spence could have Just fight Danny "an actual welterweight named" Garcia instead of letting Garcia bludgeon Granados. Cause now with Spence fighting Porter, Thurman fighting Pac man and everyone avoiding Terrence Crawford Danny Garcia will keep busy with another bum. Just a money grab and a waste of time for everyone involved.

[KTFOKING]

The ducking happened when he started wasting time pursuing the money grab fight with spence. It was a stupid fight for everyone involved. Garcia could have fought someone like Richard Comney or Like Campbell to stay busy. Spence could have Just fight Danny "an actual welterweight named" Garcia instead of letting Garcia bludgeon Granados. Cause now with Spence fighting Porter, Thurman fighting Pac man and everyone avoiding Terrence Crawford Danny Garcia will keep busy with another bum. Just a money grab and a waste of time for everyone involved.

Except the fact according to both Mikey and Hearn he got a offer to fight on DAZN for about the same money against a much easier opponent?

[MDPopescu]

Yup. Spence showed he can't handle top welterweight fighters so now he has to go down to a less glamorous division. Serves him right for looking for the money over glory.

... maybe he could "handle" the likes of Porter or Garcia -- but there's no hype for such fights...

[yankees7448]

Except the fact according to both Mikey and Hearn he got a offer to fight on DAZN for about the same money against a much easier opponent?

who gives a ****. Spence was the wrong fight for everyone involved. A shortsighted money grab that only meant anything if Garcia did the impossible. But the fight went exactly as expected because Spence was not just the bigger fighter he was the better fighter.

[yankees7448]

... maybe he could "handle" the likes of Porter or Garcia -- but there's no hype for such fights...

All the more reason not to waste he's time by going up to 147 when the most meaningful and competitive fight was at 135. Jumping up to 147 killed the fight with lomachenko

[MDPopescu]

All the more reason not to waste he's time by going up to 147 when the most meaningful and competitive fight was at 135. Jumping up to 147 killed the fight with lomachenko

... we all know that Mikey parted ways with Arum... therefore...

[j.razor]

The fight went undiscussed by either side because both guys already had fights lined up. Mikey's the guy who said, if lomachenko wants me I'm at 135.

You guys legit make **** up to fit your agendas.

Mikey turned down fighting Linares, the #2 guy in the division to fight Lipnets, some no name paper champ, so Linares called out Lomachenko and Lomachenko said yes.

Right before the Lomachenko vs Linares, Beltran, the WBO super champ defended his belt against Pedraza with the winner getting a shot at the Lomachenko/Linares winner. The Pedraza/Beltran winner was ALWAYS DESTINED TO BE FED TO LOMA.

Mikey unified against Easter during the time Lomachenko was recovering and literally before Lomachenko fought Pedraza ALREADY AGREED TO TERMS WITH SPENCE.

The fight with Lomachenko could have been made but Mikey wanted none of it. Bob even had conversations with Robert about a fight and Robert HIMSELF preferred to fight Lomachenko. But nah. It's not what Mikey wanted.

Think about this.

Mikey vs Spence announced Nov 13, 2018

Lomachenko vs Pedraza Dec 9, 2018

The only guy who didnt this fight is Mikey. Lomachenko wasnt even at 135 for 6 months before Mikey left the division.

And Mikey can totally make 135. He just likes being fat.

Mikey didn't duck linares, he didn't let Oscar bullshet him in the contract & THAT's why he never fought linares.

bob doesn't NOT want the fight. The ONLY time bob will make a fight is if his fighters have ALL the advantages.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-if-...chenko--128171

Mikey is not wasting time like pvssy g does.

[j.razor]

Mikey named dropped every name possible just to make a name for himself. Plus. If I recall correctly I dont think he actually called Spence out until after Lomachenko beat Linares.

Lomachenko was and always is a bigger risk than Spence despite Spence being physically the bigger man. Its especially true because Lomachenko is the smaller man.

It's like everyone said. If he would have fought Lomachenko and lost then that would completely destroy his brand, especially considering how he would have lost. Did you even watch Spence vs Mikey? All he did was come to surivive and collect a paycheck. Was it really that big of a risk then? His whole plan was to make it to the bell and claim moral victory. Mikey's a good boxer. He knows how to survive.

If he fought Lomachenko and lost as bad as he did he would done a Rigo.

He would have literally been another guy Lomachenko retired and he wouldnt have got that PPV fight with Spence and he would have fallen off of everyone's top 10 p4p lists. So Mikey did what business do.

You know what I call that? A duck. Listen to Mikey and then listen to Lomachenko. Both claim they're doing it for their legacy.

But what kind of person who really cares about their legacy doesnt want to fight the best person in your weight class? Especially one that's considered the near p4p consensus #1? In what would be in a fight that unifes your division that would produce an undisputed champion? That is one solid way to cement your legacy.

Mikey ducked Lomachenko period. You just dont want to beleive hes scared of losing to him. The truth is he is. Or at least hes afraid of the financial ramifications. I don't think Mikey honestly believed he could beat Lomachenko but it's in his best interests to make people believe he can.

After that showing against Spence what do you honestly think?

Spencer completely dominated and outboxed him. It would be no different vs Lomachenko.

Now imagine the thought of a smaller guy doing the exact same thing to Mikey. You dont want to imagine it do you? Its completely possible. Mikey showed he had nothing. He was slow footed. Slow to the punch. He claimed he was everything Spence had but better! Better speed, footwork, timing.

Lomachenko is better in every category too.

I honestly cant beleive you guys. Mikey's got a punchers chance and he knows it too. The dude didnt even want to fight Linares for crying out loud. And who the **** is Lipinets? The weakest champ at 140? And the thing is, he did that for money too, not fight Linares and fighting Lipinets.

How can you guys beleive this guy? Lomachenko fans want the Mikey fight right now. Lomachenko wants the fight now. Guess who doesnt want the fight?

And who do you honestly what champion do you have him beating at 140? The guy didnt even look good at 140. 140 looked like adrian broners 147. One weight class too big to be elite but a contender.

Do you think that Mikey is gonna go back to fighting undercard fights? Fighting people who dont bring in the money?

Tell me what you think.

Mikey fought a bigger, stronger & better fighter so you can't spin it how you like it. Tell l0m0 to tell bob to do his job that he hired him for.

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NOT do this ^

[New England]

he fought errol spence??


holy guacamole you guys are ridiculous. i hope you're joking. no one is this dumb.