Comments Thread For: Oscar De La Hoya: PPV is No Longer Alive Because of DAZN

[Boxing Hero]

Canelo was last boxer to be hitting over a million PPV so, yes the is a big chance that PPV is weaken, if not dead.

[Oldskoolg]

While streaming is clearly the future, ODH is trying to pretend all the fights for the top DAZN boxers will be PPV quality, which isn't the case.

He also seems to be dismissing the fact that the fights the fans want the most involve PBC guys facing ESPN or DAZN fighters. Those fights will almost have to take place on PPV if they are going to be made.

PPV isn't dead. it will be where you go for almost all the best fights that the fans want. The one good thing is fights that shouldn't be on PPV-say Crawford/Postol-will no longer be.

Good post. That is precisely why both arum and Hearn have been railing against haymon....they want access to his fighters for either their fighters or because they want to sign his fighters. It’s a 3 way race between PBC, Matchroom, and top rank. After Canelo loses a couple or retires or both, golden Boy becomes strictly a California based regional promotion with no one else.

[KTFOKING]

What don't you understand? Previously Canelo's fight's cost $80+ and now they cost $20 or if you sign up for the year $50 and get every other DAZN fight card for the effectively free. Lowering the price point of any product typically will increase demand.

Eventually it will no doubt. But right now DAZN is still a new company in America so it isn't all that known. This is why you sign superstars like Canelo to change that. Canelo has been on the scene for years, how much more popular is he going to get?

Now, could it affect other younger fighters trying to make a name for themselves? Sure, but that could change once DAZN gets their brand out to the American public and start making deals with other linear networks. I mean they already are airing their shoulder programming on networks like NBC which is big time.

[pillowfists98]

If you take out Canelo and Floyd no PPV fights have done more than 500,000 buys in the past 5 years. Canelo is now off PPV and Floyd is retired and nobody has yet filled the void in terms of a mega PPV star.

[pugil1st]

What don't you understand? Previously Canelo's fight's cost $80+ and now they cost $20 or if you sign up for the year $50 and get every other DAZN fight card for the effectively free. Lowering the price point of any product typically will increase demand.

You should read my comment again. It has little to do with the cost of DAZN. The casual fan is not going to subscribe to a monthly service even if it is cheaper.

[pugil1st]

I have a good friend who I would describe as a casual fan. He knows little of Canelo. When there is a big fight that people are talking about, he'll ask my opinion and then order the fight and have friends over. This guy will never subscribe to DAZN even with the cost breakdown. In his case and I'm sure many others, a cheaper PPV model is best. He like the event and spectacle of it all.

[KTFOKING]

I have a good friend who I would describe as a casual fan. He knows little of Canelo. When there is a big fight that people are talking about, he'll ask my opinion and then order the fight and have friends over. This guy will never subscribe to DAZN even with the cost breakdown. In his case and I'm sure many others, a cheaper PPV model is best. He like the event and spectacle of it all.

I think that's because a lot of people are not educated on how these streaming services work and the devices you can use to get them on your television. It is a work in progress, but eventually people will catch on.

The problem right now more than anything is no one knows what DAZN is. It is a totally new streaming service in the US. If this fight was on ESPN+, some would still no doubt be confused since it is on an app, but the name ESPN would register to them and they would be able to figure it out.

[KTFOKING]

If you take out Canelo and Floyd no PPV fights have done more than 500,000 buys in the past 5 years. Canelo is now off PPV and Floyd is retired and nobody has yet filled the void in terms of a mega PPV star.

Yeah, no one has broken through as a mega star.....Yet. But obviously we have seen PPVs do solid/good numbers like Spence/Garcia. I'd bet Wilder/Joshua would EASILY surpass the 500k mark, but that fight is unlikely to be on PPV. Let's see who, if anyone emerges as the next PPV star. There are PPVs out there that would do 500k+ buys.

[The Big Dunn]

Good post. That is precisely why both arum and Hearn have been railing against haymon....they want access to his fighters for either their fighters or because they want to sign his fighters. It’s a 3 way race between PBC, Matchroom, and top rank. After Canelo loses a couple or retires or both, golden Boy becomes strictly a California based regional promotion with no one else.

Thanks. I do agree with BigStomps that if you want to fight Canelo you have to go to DAZN.

I just really think the issue with PPV is the quality of fights. DAZN IMO isn't replacing PPV it's replacing HBO WCB and BAD. I definitely want to watch the fights they put on.

IMO while Canelo/Jacobs on DAZN is a bargain, having to pay even $9.99 for Canelo/Fielding type fights is too much.

[pugil1st]

I think that's because a lot of people are not educated on how these streaming services work and the devices you can use to get them on your television. It is a work in progress, but eventually people will catch on.

The problem right now more than anything is no one knows what DAZN is. It is a totally new streaming service in the US. If this fight was on ESPN+, some would still no doubt be confused since it is on an app, but the name ESPN would register to them and they would be able to figure it out.

Yeah, he might do ESPN+ just because it offers more sports options but combat only? I can't see it. I know he's already got a bunch of them including Prime, Hulu, Netflix, All Access and he's getting Disney+ for the Marvel stuff. That all ads up. We'll see how it all shakes out.