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  • Fanofreason
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    #41
    Canelo does not deserve to be mentioned in same sentence as floyd

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    • IMDAZED
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      #42
      Originally posted by ramses07
      ehh Im thinking more along a prime Vernon forrest

      corrales wasn't that strong

      more of a weight bully
      Corrales was very strong at 130, weight bully or not.

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      • hugh grant
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        #43
        Floyd rarely fought fighters a lot taller than him with longer reach who were any good at the time if he could help it.Especially when he became man to beat
        Corrales is so so as opponent in hindsight

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          #44
          Originally posted by SniXSniPe
          Hatton? Seriously?

          Hatton was a career 140 lber who moved up to 147 to fight Floyd.
          Hatton was probably in the best shape of his life when he fought Floyd. He wasn't outsized at all just out skilled!

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          • SCEN3RY
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            #45
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            You just described Corrales.
            eh personally, never thought corrales as skilled as some try to remember him. solid fighter tho.

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              #46
              Originally posted by SCEN3RY
              eh personally, never thought corrales as skilled as some try to remember him. solid fighter tho.
              Very skilled. You don’t beat Castillo without being skilled. Plus, him switching up and outboxing an elite boxer in Joel Casamayor gets overlooked.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ez396979
                I’m a Floyd fan, and I think he would have beat probably all of the fighters he faced in their prime. But I can’t really remember Floyd fighting anyone as risky as Jacobs, especially when he was at Canelos stage of his career. Jacobs is in his prime or close to it, hits hard and knows how to box. jlc? It’s hard to remember the hype back then. But Shane, Oscar, cotto, Judda, Diego, and ortiz were either washed up, b fighters, or elite fighters just past their prime (Still great/tough fighters, but lost a step)

                Canelo was very green and I remember the general consensus being he wasn’t ready to face Floyd, including my own. Idc if he had a few fights under his belt, he was like 22 years old and everyone knew he’d lose.

                Pac was not on Jacobs level at that time, love pac, but he was past it when they fought. In their primes with explosive manny i would have expected a much more interesting fight, but I’d pick Floyd by a close decision.

                The maidana fight was a very tough fight, but not quite on the level of Jacobs.
                A lot would burn you for this but I can see where you’re coming from. Though I think Corrales, Floyd’s best win against a prime opponent, Pac at 36, Oscar at 35 are all better proportionally than current Jacob, in terms of risk level. The difference is Floyd is just way higher than Canelo will ever be, skill wise and everything else that’s why it doesn’t seem so.

                So I agree with you that Floyd, out of all the good and great names in his resume, didn’t really fight the opponents, whether by choice or not, at time they mattered most. Again by choice or not, if the pac fight happened in 2009 and he won in any way, his case for goat is even more solid.
                His resume is perfectly engineered though, that even though he didn’t fight them at time they mattered most, it can still confuse you. Whether he’s that great? Or well, he just engineered it to look that way.

                But to me, his best win against an absolute prime opponent remains to be corrales. Which largely and easily pales, against Leonard’s benetiz, duran, hagler and hearns.

                Though I believe his skills, his capabilities and the opportunities he’s had throughout his career were more than enough to have surpassed leonard had he been able to grab them. By choice or not.

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                • Floyd is TBE
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                  #48
                  Well, we can't all luck out and be matched up with "killers" like Salido in our second fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by larryxxx..
                    you do realize most of floyds fights were 135 and under right?

                    31 of his fights were 135 and under

                    he literally only had 13 ww fights
                    Larry, we all know you're the biggest/most biased Floyd fanboy in the world, but don't try to negate the fact that Floyd became a professional boxer at the age of 19 years old.

                    Floyd was up to 140 @ 27.


                    You know, what, this leads me to a perfect time to bring this up.

                    You always bash Golovkin for not moving up weight classes, but then you neglect his amateur career...:

                    Light Welterweight @ 18 [141]
                    Light Middleweight @ 20 [152]
                    Middleweight @ 21 [165]

                    So does this mean you'll give props to Golovkin for moving up a lot of weight? Or are we still pretending like young fighters never get any bigger and/or doesn't have an easier time cutting weight?


                    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                    Well, we can't all luck out and be matched up with "killers" like Salido in our second fight.
                    I mean, you can bash Salido all you want, but apparently, his leftovers (Robert Guerrero) were good enough for Floyd to fight.

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