Dazn and espn are absolutely right

[bigjavi973]

You are correct about kids but they will ask that now. A month or so ago the wife and I were Spring cleaning and we threw out a DVD player from our room. Our 11yr old daughter asked us "what is that thing"? LMFAO!!

[Motorcity Cobra]

The reason google became an ISP was not because they wanted to dominate the industry. It was to push the current ISP's to offer faster speeds that would support products Google wanted to release. Before Google fiber the ISP's were offering 50mbps as high speed. Now the lowest base package is 100mbps with 200 being the most common

[Southpawology]

everything will be app and stream based in the future 100%

[Randall Cunning]

https://www.marketingcharts.com/featured-105414

What Are the Latest Viewing Trends Among Youth?

Nielsen’s most recent report indicates that Americans aged 18-34 watched a daily average of 1 hour and 51 minutes of traditional TV during Q3 2018. What does that mean?

This is the first quarter on record in which youths’ traditional TV viewing (live + time-shifted TV) has dropped below 2 hours per day.

While that overall figure isn’t broken down by narrower age group, it’s safe to assume that older Millennials (25-34) are watching more than their younger counterparts. (The last time we ran this analysis with this age group broken down, covering Q2 2017, 18-24-year-olds were watching less than their older counterparts. It’s highly unlikely that pattern has changed since then…)

In terms of a year-over-year change, Q3’s figure represents a decline of 23 minutes per day, according to a review of the figures provided by Nielsen.

In percentage terms, the amount of time 18-34-year-olds as a whole spent watching traditional TV (live and time-shifted) in Q3 2018 dropped by about 17.2% from the previous year. Needless to say, that’s a huge chunk – a drop of about 1 in every 6 minutes in just a single year.

To give some context to the extent to which digital has supplanted traditional TV for youth, this latest report indicates that 18-34-year-olds spent one hour more per day in Q3 2018 using apps and the web on smartphones alone than watching traditional TV.

A quick note: the above data is averaged among the 18-34 population as a whole, meaning that it includes those (many) youth who don’t watch traditional TV. How many? Traditional TV reached just 73% of 18-34-year-olds during the third quarter (compared to 86% of the adult population).

In Q3 2018 traditional TV users ages 18-34 (those 73%) spent about 2 hours and 11 minutes per day watching traditional TV. Unfortunately, year-over-year comparisons aren’t available for media users, so we can’t determine the extent to which that figure has declined. We’ll begin those comparisons again with the Q1 2019 report’s release.

[The Big Dunn]

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/disney-continues-to-lose-money-on-streaming-as-it-builds-up-espn-prepares-for-disney-launch.html

Disney continues to lose money on streaming as it builds up ESPN+, prepares for Disney+ launch
ESPN+ continues to cost Disney money nearly a year into its launch.

The world of subscription streaming services has a very high barrier to entry, even for some of the most powerful media companies in the world. Disney is finding that out right now. After 2018 earnings that saw the company lose hundreds of millions in the streaming sector, Disney is reportedly set to lose hundreds of millions more in the first half of 2019.

That’s according to this report from Gerry Smith at Bloomberg:

Disney lost just under $100 million on streaming in the first quarter and expects to lose an additional $200 million on its online video efforts in the second quarter, mostly to develop ESPN+, its subscription sports channel. The company will also surrender about $150 million in operating income after cutting off licensing to competing services, executives said on a February call. “Captain Marvel,” a superhero blockbuster that opened Friday, is the first Disney movie in years that won’t eventually show on Netflix.

This was always going to be a long-game for Disney, a company that can certainly afford to make investments like this, especially with the potential for a big return down the line. It’s not just the operating income, though, to be fair; there’s also a big opportunity cost in the near-term for Disney on the entertainment side.

Michael Nathanson, a media analyst with MoffettNathanson, expects the Burbank, California-based entertainment giant to lose more than $1 billion this year and another $1 billion next year by forgoing licensing deals and investing in its online video business, including Disney+, which will be the TV home for the company’s movies when it debuts later this year.

These are all costs Disney has factored in, of course, and on the sports side, they’ve recently touted a growing ESPN+ subscriber base of 2 million users. The numbers probably still make sense for Disney, even if the reward might not come for a while yet.

[eco1]

Everything is going this direction I even have hbo as a app right now (despite no boxing) cause of thrones and I can watch it from point to finish it’s the new era.

Espn has did this with ufc
And boxing with old ass bob ass ahead of his era , but man when the pbc network deal runs out its gonna be a ugly site. Anyway I didn’t make this on some al haymon groupie **** I’m makin this telling him he’s ****in up.

Except for the last episode which was so dark that no one knows what happened LOL

[Thuglife Nelo]

Showtime was the first to start streaming.Start your free trial here.

They have more subscribers than DAZN and ESPN+ combined.

Netflix 140 million subscriber.
ESPN+ has 2+ million subscribers.
Showtime and CBS All Access has 8 million subscribers.
Hulu 25 million subscribers.

At the end of the day, Boxing is still niche. It's about which boxers are where and which boxers will choose to go. That's how branding works. Doesn't matter if Disney+ can push ESPN+. It only matters when a fighter signs, its noise, and how they're marketed.

How are ESPN doing selling Loma and Crawford?

How well will Showtime/Fox push its PBC stars?

What significance will DAZN's brand make for boxing and MMA fans? Brands make a difference. Consumers and fans aren't going to debate subscription wars for getting ESPN+ vs DAZN. That's not how they think. I've said this many times. If consumers buy excess things, why I assume a boxing fan wouldn't pay for both ESPN+ and DAZN?

LEt's stop comparing movie catalogs and shows to sporting events. Doesn't matter if Hulu has 25 million subs, what fighter is on Hulu and does a fan of Canelo or AJ give a fook about Hulu on their monthly service if they're only interested in boxing?

Netflix's rise is based on GLOBAL subscriptions. DAZN's methodology is based on going GLOBAL. In 2018 they've made an accelerated push for MMA and Boxing. IT's a start and slowly growing.

When DAZN hits Mexico, cause I assure you Carlos Slim, the leader of Global Telecommunications, could quite possibly prioritize in helping DAZN land there considering he's a friend and fan of Canelo Alvarez. Which means DAZN will want to continue investing more in the Hispanic market and possibly big on Mexican boxing. How that might rival Boz Azteca might cause a war, but it is what it is.

WAR DAZN!

[Thuglife Nelo]

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/dis...ey-launch.html

Disney continues to lose money on streaming as it builds up ESPN+, prepares for Disney+ launch
ESPN+ continues to cost Disney money nearly a year into its launch.

The world of subscription streaming services has a very high barrier to entry, even for some of the most powerful media companies in the world. Disney is finding that out right now. After 2018 earnings that saw the company lose hundreds of millions in the streaming sector, Disney is reportedly set to lose hundreds of millions more in the first half of 2019.

That’s according to this report from Gerry Smith at Bloomberg:

Disney lost just under $100 million on streaming in the first quarter and expects to lose an additional $200 million on its online video efforts in the second quarter, mostly to develop ESPN+, its subscription sports channel. The company will also surrender about $150 million in operating income after cutting off licensing to competing services, executives said on a February call. “Captain Marvel,” a superhero blockbuster that opened Friday, is the first Disney movie in years that won’t eventually show on Netflix.

This was always going to be a long-game for Disney, a company that can certainly afford to make investments like this, especially with the potential for a big return down the line. It’s not just the operating income, though, to be fair; there’s also a big opportunity cost in the near-term for Disney on the entertainment side.

Michael Nathanson, a media analyst with MoffettNathanson, expects the Burbank, California-based entertainment giant to lose more than $1 billion this year and another $1 billion next year by forgoing licensing deals and investing in its online video business, including Disney+, which will be the TV home for the company’s movies when it debuts later this year.

These are all costs Disney has factored in, of course, and on the sports side, they’ve recently touted a growing ESPN+ subscriber base of 2 million users. The numbers probably still make sense for Disney, even if the reward might not come for a while yet.

The problem with Disney branding is its historical ethics. It's known as a Children's company first. They have a limit on what to push. There's no way around it. That's the reason why they have ESPN+ as their sports revenue portal. How much will Disney back ESPN+ Boxing is yet to be seen. That's all relative to which new prospects we know can make noise.

People forget that it's not just about 1 subscription purchase. Data and analytics shows who is watching when. If a particular fight or sports category isn't projecting the numbers they really want, then bigger budges aren't allocated and therefore it's just flat.

For instance. If Canelo Jacobs is a FOTY type of fight. Where even in sports news its like ''best fight in a long time.'' That alone attracts boxing enthusiasts to get DAZN and watch it. That's how it all works.

[bigjavi973]

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/dis...ey-launch.html

Disney continues to lose money on streaming as it builds up ESPN+, prepares for Disney+ launch
ESPN+ continues to cost Disney money nearly a year into its launch.

The world of subscription streaming services has a very high barrier to entry, even for some of the most powerful media companies in the world. Disney is finding that out right now. After 2018 earnings that saw the company lose hundreds of millions in the streaming sector, Disney is reportedly set to lose hundreds of millions more in the first half of 2019.

That’s according to this report from Gerry Smith at Bloomberg:

Disney lost just under $100 million on streaming in the first quarter and expects to lose an additional $200 million on its online video efforts in the second quarter, mostly to develop ESPN+, its subscription sports channel. The company will also surrender about $150 million in operating income after cutting off licensing to competing services, executives said on a February call. “Captain Marvel,” a superhero blockbuster that opened Friday, is the first Disney movie in years that won’t eventually show on Netflix.

This was always going to be a long-game for Disney, a company that can certainly afford to make investments like this, especially with the potential for a big return down the line. It’s not just the operating income, though, to be fair; there’s also a big opportunity cost in the near-term for Disney on the entertainment side.

Michael Nathanson, a media analyst with MoffettNathanson, expects the Burbank, California-based entertainment giant to lose more than $1 billion this year and another $1 billion next year by forgoing licensing deals and investing in its online video business, including Disney+, which will be the TV home for the company’s movies when it debuts later this year.

These are all costs Disney has factored in, of course, and on the sports side, they’ve recently touted a growing ESPN+ subscriber base of 2 million users. The numbers probably still make sense for Disney, even if the reward might not come for a while yet.

imo its because no one wants to pay anything per month etc and then have to pay a separate ppv for the better fights......

idk but I think they dropped the ball there having fights on espn+ and then you still gotta order ppv for the better fights (and the last ppv wasnt too good imo)

[bigjavi973]

Netflix 140 million subscriber.
ESPN+ has 2+ million subscribers.
Showtime and CBS All Access has 8 million subscribers.
Hulu 25 million subscribers.

At the end of the day, Boxing is still niche. It's about which boxers are where and which boxers will choose to go. That's how branding works. Doesn't matter if Disney+ can push ESPN+. It only matters when a fighter signs, its noise, and how they're marketed.

How are ESPN doing selling Loma and Crawford?

How well will Showtime/Fox push its PBC stars?

What significance will DAZN's brand make for boxing and MMA fans? Brands make a difference. Consumers and fans aren't going to debate subscription wars for getting ESPN+ vs DAZN. That's not how they think. I've said this many times. If consumers buy excess things, why I assume a boxing fan wouldn't pay for both ESPN+ and DAZN?

LEt's stop comparing movie catalogs and shows to sporting events. Doesn't matter if Hulu has 25 million subs, what fighter is on Hulu and does a fan of Canelo or AJ give a fook about Hulu on their monthly service if they're only interested in boxing?

Netflix's rise is based on GLOBAL subscriptions. DAZN's methodology is based on going GLOBAL. In 2018 they've made an accelerated push for MMA and Boxing. IT's a start and slowly growing.

When DAZN hits Mexico, cause I assure you Carlos Slim, the leader of Global Telecommunications, could quite possibly prioritize in helping DAZN land there considering he's a friend and fan of Canelo Alvarez. Which means DAZN will want to continue investing more in the Hispanic market and possibly big on Mexican boxing. How that might rival Boz Azteca might cause a war, but it is what it is.

WAR DAZN!

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