Eddie Hearn's Final Offer 7+Mil To Luis Ortiz Rejected, Fight Officially Off!!

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  • Toffee
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    #61
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    I'm not a Wilder fan and Joe Calzaghe was my favorite fighter, you simple minded twat. Not everyone thinks of boxing on a nationalistic level. Just the ones that are insecure and have a chip on their shoulder.
    No chip on my shoulder. I never said you were a Wider fan. Behaviour of someone with a chip on their shoulder.

    You can go back and read what I said. Then read it again and attempt to comprehend it.

    Any more abusive red Ks you want to send me?

    Oh yeah, by the way, I don't live in the UK.
    Last edited by Toffee; 04-25-2019, 06:11 AM.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #62
      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
      I'm sure he does or fighters would be jumping ship but this whole ordeal just seems like they took advantage of Wilder for their own personal benefit. If he ends up making all that money and then some down the line then good for him but in the short term we all lose out on a few great fights between Joshua and Wilder.

      I'm just fed up with all that boxing is at this point, the Network and Promoter beefs and coldness is just killing the whole sport. I thought it may have gotten better when HBO went away but it's only gotten worse.

      Espn has a few big names with nobody for them to fight, Showtime is so bad now that their biggest fight in 5 months has been a womens fight that looked like it was in a high school gymnasium and Fox is pushing PPV down our throats at an alarming rate now when we thought we'd be getting some great shows on there and Showtime.

      I've been a fan of boxing for 30 years, since I was a kid, but I'm at the point where I barely give a **** anymore because I know I'll hardly ever see the fights that should happen, when they should.

      We will be lucky to see Wilder-Joshua in 2020 at this rate. Same with Spence-Crawford.
      (I've been a fan of boxing for 55 years now... )

      ... in 2020 we maybe get Wilder-Joshua, but not Spence-Crawford (I'm afraid) -- Spence will be busy even the next year...

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      • SplitSecond
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        #63
        ***ed up that other promoters are willing to work with haymon but he simply refuses to without robbing them or unless it's to take a belt to further his monopoly.

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        • Jubei
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          #64
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          if the report is true...this is smart for luis ortiz

          he will do a ppv rematch with wilder in 2019....thats smart as he will likely come around that 7 mil figure for that fight.....

          since many here(well the aj fanboys)think that wilder is easier pickings and ripe to be taken...and that ortiz "had him" in the last one......then ortiz can take that belt and make even more money for an AJ fight

          if he loses to AJ hes likely done and no longer a viable opponent to face wilder again..

          uk fanboys insist wilder is easier to beat and had wilder near defeat....so its a two birds more money scenario...hes likely to see similar money in a wilder ppv rematch.....if he loses to aj he wont see that wilder fight again anyway...he beats wilder than he sees more than what he would have made in june vs AJ later when hes holding a wbc strap to bring with him
          This must be one of the worst posters on the whole site right here. Imagine being him.

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          • kafkod
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            #65
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx
            These idiots that said he should have taken 5 million need to pay attention. You guys don't understand how money works. He just got offered 7+.

            Now, Ortiz rejecting 7m is just su****ious to me. I knew he was worth more than 5 and it seems even Hearn agrees on that. Passing 7m + is hard to wrap my head around when we're taking about Ortiz here. I think other "factors" came into play.
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx
            Feels like something along those lines. I can see holding out on 5M because he's worth more than that for a Joshua fight. Everyone with boxing sense knew it and it was proven true when the offer got bumped up. To skip this though, when you're old AF and have been chasing title shots...

            We as fans get such a small window into these situations that I'm not going to play know-it-all and say he's definitely up to some shyt. But, I gotta say it feels suspect.
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            The 7 million was the offer he rejected , 5 million was only speculative .The 5 million would still be foolish to not take when he has a highest pay of 500K and titles are on the line. That's how money actually works a along with business sense.
            I just saw this interview with Hearn saying the initial offer which Ortiz rejected was "a lot more" than the reported $5million.

            He also says he's fed up with people lying about the money he offers them and has proof of what the real offer was, which he will reveal after AJ's next opponent is confirmed.

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              #66
              Ortiz is scared of failing PED tests

              Dirty cheater!

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                #67
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                If hearn thinks Ortiz is cycling call the bluff and offer 6.5 like u did to the lesser ranked and less notable guy...then nobody can say anything...but we all know they want a mike Hunter level guy
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                hearn sets market price on miller at 6.5

                hearn offers higher ranked fighter 5 mil...higher ranked guy also had a FOTY candidate in NYC against a top 3 HW....

                surefire way to kill fight he didn't want

                remember....Ortiz is not only not the first HW to accuse hearn of lowballing...hearn has been accused by several guys of it in the past

                its sad...but I get it...Ortiz too dangerous of a replacement plus lefthanded

                for the record Ortiz asking for 10 mil is ridiculous...but I bet if eddie said 6.5 it would be done

                never underestimate that extra 1.5...it pays trainers and managers and camp expenses.....but somehow hearn felt the less ballyhooed miller deserved more!!!! LOL
                So that was what you said when you thought Ortiz had rejected $5million.

                "Stop lowballing Eddie! Ortiz is worth $6.5million, the same as Miller!

                Then when you read that Ortiz turned down $7million ....

                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                if the report is true...this is smart for luis ortiz
                You have no integrity at all.

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                • blue_dolphin
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                  #68
                  now im rooting for brazzers to beat wilder.

                  arum was right. Haymon is a cancer

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                  • Jubei
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Toffee
                    No chip on my shoulder. I never said you were a Wider fan. Behaviour of someone with a chip on their shoulder.

                    You can go back and read what I said. Then read it again and attempt to comprehend it.

                    Any more abusive red Ks you want to send me?

                    Oh yeah, by the way, I don't live in the UK.
                    Dont worry, Red Foxx is one of the biggest beta cucks and hypocrites on this forum, never ever take anything he says serious.

                    He was the frontrunner for nailing Pulev to the cross for "sexually assaulting" that golddiger who was partying and dryhumping Pulevs team after the fight.

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                    • blue_dolphin
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      if haymon is "blocking the fight" its because he is gonna do wilder/Ortiz on ppv next.....which will be inhouse so he can pay Ortiz fairly well where hed make probably around the same figure he would have made for AJ......its an inhouse fight and helps give wilders next fight a bit of luster....which is sensible

                      andy ruiz is in negotiations with AJ and hes a haymon guy
                      why are u so in favor of seeing wider/ortiz 2 before wilder/AJ? how much longer must that fight marinate? now im rootin for brazzers to beat wilder. wtf has ortiz done since wilder knocked him out that makes u think the result would be different? we want wilder vs AJ this year!

                      if wilder vs ortiz 2 is the master plan from gaymon then im rooting for brazzers for the upset

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