Comments Thread For: Nelson Feels Ortiz Too Dangerous For Joshua on Short-Notice

[champion4ever]

Think we all know by now it’s nothing to do short notice , money etc

It’s all to do with the pbc protection racket

Same reason wilder turned down a 100 million .... painfully obvious what’s going on . Basically a network war and pbc heavys are being used as pawns

According to Bob Arum it's because Al Haymon told him not to listen to the white guys.

[TreJac]

Since you're speaking about now, how much did Hearns offer? It's crazy how certain fighters want 10x the amount of money They usually make to fight Joshua & Crawford! I usually make $1 million per fight but you're going to have to pay me $10 million to face one of them! GTFOH

[mrlopez]

Well we will never know, Haymon got him to duck Joshua. Personally i think AJ would of demolished him easy but thats just my opinion based on the fact ive seen Ortiz having to go to war against lower ranked opposition.

Think we all know by now it’s nothing to do short notice , money etc

It’s all to do with the pbc protection racket

Same reason wilder turned down a 100 million .... painfully obvious what’s going on . Basically a network war and pbc heavys are being used as pawns

Both of you are correct. AJ crushes the old man with ease, but then his "boogeyman" aura is gone and Wilder doesnt get to look great in the rematch.

As for the pbc protection racket, its now official, as opposed to hearsay. Ellerbe has recently said it, and now with Ortiz apparently forgetting that he said he'd fight AJ if Miller fell through, its too obvious....

Those who support this, slap ya self, cause youre not real boxing fans.

[Straightener]

According to Bob Arum it's because Al Haymon told him not to listen to the white guys.

The old toad might be on to something

Those guys aren’t gonna earn that sort of money anywhere else .....

[TreJac]

People need to stop calling for certain fight because they're not going to happen! Crawford needs to move on because it's obvious the pbc fighters will not accept the challenge! Joshua & many other fighters need to do the same! This shiiit is getting crazy how no one wants to face another fighter in a 50/50 fight! Move up, drain down, rehydration clause, I pick your gloves type, I pick the judges and ref, catch weight, etc.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

According to Bob Arum it's because Al Haymon told him not to listen to the white guys.

That would be great advice if he did say that

[angkag]

So what was the so-called lowball offer? It was reported that Ortiz only made a few hundred thousand for the Wilder fight so you can't go much lower than that! What I've noticed about most of these fighters today is they claim they're not afraid and are willing to fight anyone but most of them never do! Don't claim it was a lowball offer and don't say what the amount was! That's just seems a little funny!

If Hearn simply extended Miller's purse to Ortiz, then Ortiz doesn't have a leg to stand on. If Hearn tried offering Ortiz less than Miller, then Ortiz might have a point - Hearn only has 6 weeks, hardball negotiations like that take months. Need to now what Hearn offered before can have an opinion on it.

[champion4ever]

That would be great advice if he did say that

Is that a fact? I knew the chances of this fight happening were slim. As much as I would have loved for it happen it was just not possible because the two are fighting on different platforms.

[SchoolTheseCats]

If Hearn simply extended Miller's purse to Ortiz, then Ortiz doesn't have a leg to stand on. If Hearn tried offering Ortiz less than Miller, then Ortiz might have a point - Hearn only has 6 weeks, hardball negotiations like that take months. Need to now what Hearn offered before can have an opinion on it.

We will know if it’s true or not that Hearn low balled the offer and went back on his word of whoever they got to replace miller would make same purse he was getting when submit paperwork to commission

[diarraisagod]

Yeah makes sense. The whole "we're getting lowballed" excuse is always the first used for saving face when teams don't wanna take a fight