AJ/Wilder, AJ/Ortiz, Crawford/Spence, Loma/Garcia will not happen. Thanks, Al Haymon!

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  • MDPopescu
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    How come you weren't this upset when AJ/Hearn falsely pretended they wanted to fight Wilder when all along they weren't going to launch DAZN with a US PPV and chose povetkin instead?

    How come you didn't make a thread when Bob blocked the Spence/Crawford fight by stating he wouldn't make it until it was a "big PPV"?

    Jubei you don't care one bit about the health of the sport. You take issue with Haymon solely because he is black. You never get outraged when another promotional entity makes a move that hurts the sport or cheats fans out of fights.
    ... as if Crawford and Joshua were pink!...

    (... what goes around comes around...)

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Originally posted by MDPopescu
      ... as if Crawford and Joshua were pink!...

      (... what goes around comes around...)
      I don't understand. Jubei is criticizing Haymon, not fighters. The other promoter/managers are not the same as Haymon.

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      • MDPopescu
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        ... you don't care one bit about the health of the sport. You take issue with Haymon solely because he is black. You never get outraged when another promotional entity makes a move that hurts the sport or cheats fans out of fights.
        ... Don King?..........................

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #24
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          ... Don King?..........................
          I still don't understand what you are getting at. Don King isn't a major player anymore.

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #25
            Ive said for years hes ruining the sport. Sorry if that makes me 'racist' but hes not bringing much positivity into boxing.

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            • Bob Haymon
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              That isn't true. Haymon hasn't made any comments about not making the fight.

              What facts are you basing this opinion on? Haymon didn't block Canelo /Chavez Jr., Jacobs/GGG, or Brook/Spence. He made Wilder/Fury 1. Haymon was making the rematch when Arum signed Fury and blocked it from happening. He didn't block Wilder/AJ initially.

              Which fights do you know Haymon blocked alone?
              PBC spokesman Tim Smith exact words were "These fights happen when the time is right", which would indicate they don't want the fight.

              Canelo/Chavez Jr. happened because of de la Hoya negotiated with Fernando Beltran, Spence was Brook's mandatory, and Wilder-Fury happened years after Fury was at the peak of his career.

              Currently, Haymon is the main impediment in making Crawford-Spence. PBC heavyweights are declining or outpricing themselves from a Joshua fight. We've seen for many years PBC fighters ducking Rigondeaux. Gary Russell hasn't had meaningful competition since Lomachenko despite having big names in his own promotional stable. We've seen Wilder avoid elite opposition like Klitschko, Joshua, and a prime Fury. Adonis Stevenson avoided elite competitors like Kovalev, Beterbiev and Alvarez. Spence vs Thurman, Garcia, and Porter have been marinating forever.

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              • mrlopez
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                #27
                That ****** sucker Al Gaymon IS in fact making boxing matches only to his liking. Everyone can shout "well Arum did it" and if that makes it ok to you, then go fcuk yourself, because youre part of the problem.
                Arum said 50/50 on everything for crwf/spence, but we all got Crickets from the ****** trick. but yet all his cronies have come out and said it wont happen. They also said aj/ortiz wont happen, and so on and so on). protected boxing chumps is a joke. their fights have been mostly filler with barely any substance, yet you cawksuckers slurp that sh.it up. And because pbc doesnt offer to make any other fights with damn near any other promoter, all boxing suffers.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Gambino
                  PBC spokesman Tim Smith exact words were "These fights happen when the time is right", which would indicate they don't want the fight.

                  Canelo/Chavez Jr. happened because of de la Hoya negotiated with Fernando Beltran, Spence was Brook's mandatory, and Wilder-Fury happened years after Fury was at the peak of his career.

                  Currently, Haymon is the main impediment in making Crawford-Spence. PBC heavyweights are declining or outpricing themselves from a Joshua fight. We've seen for many years PBC fighters ducking Rigondeaux. Gary Russell hasn't had meaningful competition since Lomachenko despite having big names in his own promotional stable. We've seen Wilder avoid elite opposition like Klitschko, Joshua, and a prime Fury. Adonis Stevenson avoided elite competitors like Kovalev, Beterbiev and Alvarez. Spence vs Thurman, Garcia, and Porter have been marinating forever.
                  Couldnt have said it better myself!

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Gambino
                    PBC spokesman Tim Smith exact words were "These fights happen when the time is right", which would indicate they don't want the fight.

                    Canelo/Chavez Jr. happened because of de la Hoya negotiated with Fernando Beltran, Spence was Brook's mandatory, and Wilder-Fury happened years after Fury was at the peak of his career.

                    Currently, Haymon is the main impediment in making Crawford-Spence. PBC heavyweights are declining or outpricing themselves from a Joshua fight. We've seen for many years PBC fighters ducking Rigondeaux. Gary Russell hasn't had meaningful competition since Lomachenko despite having big names in his own promotional stable. We've seen Wilder avoid elite opposition like Klitschko, Joshua, and a prime Fury. Adonis Stevenson avoided elite competitors like Kovalev, Beterbiev and Alvarez. Spence vs Thurman, Garcia, and Porter have been marinating forever.
                    That is a very self serving interpretation. In no way does saying the fight will happen indicate they don't want the fight.

                    You posted Haymon blocked inter-promotional fights. I showed a number he didn't. Now you are suggesting these people made the fights in spite of Haymon trying to block them, which isn't believable. He also didn't blockLoma/Russell.

                    No he isn't. Where are your facts to show this?

                    Wilder recently turned down the DAZN offer, yes. Hearn blocked that fight 1st. You can't pretend that didn't happen. Ortiz, yeah I think he is being a bit greedy but a number of posters think he has the right to negotiate for as much as he can get.

                    Ducking Rigo? who?

                    True, Russell hasn't fought anyone of merit but that isn't proof that Haymon is preventing inter-promotional fights as you posted. Again, please support this with some factual evidence.

                    Wilder just fought Fury. How could he avoid him when Fury not fighting? That makes no sense. Arum blocked the wilder/fury rematch.

                    Haymon took Adonis to SHO. Blocked the kov fight 1st time. Then the 2nd time Kov and his team asked out of being the mando and r-signed with HBO, blocking the fight. There is no evidence Haymon prevented those fights. His marinating those fights isn't proof he blocked other fights.

                    All I am asking you to do is provide some proof to support your opinion.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      ]How come you weren't this upset when AJ/Hearn falsely pretended they wanted to fight Wilder when all along they weren't going to launch DAZN with a US PPV and chose povetkin instead?

                      How come you didn't make a thread when Bob blocked the Spence/Crawford fight by stating he wouldn't make it until it was a "big PPV"?

                      Jubei you don't care one bit about the health of the sport. You take issue with Haymon solely because he is black. You never get outraged when another promotional entity makes a move that hurts the sport or cheats fans out of fights.
                      AJ and Hearn pretended no such thing.

                      They sent Wilder a contract for the fight! All he had to was sign it and AJ would have had to fight him before Povetkin.

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