AJ/Wilder, AJ/Ortiz, Crawford/Spence, Loma/Garcia will not happen. Thanks, Al Haymon!

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by Jubei
    So thats all you have to say in your defense to the matter at hand?

    Basically nothing but bringing up other topics?

    Bob Arum is trying to make Spence vs Crawford.

    Eddie Hearn is trying to make AJ vs Wilder and AJ vs Ortiz.

    Haymon is preventing these and many other great fights from happening. Thats a FACT.

    You are deflecting and bring up random other topics that have nothing to do with the current situation. You basically surrendered.
    Bob isn't trying to make Spence/Crawford. he said what he did Sat night and then in the media to try and save face because the crowd was angry at the way the fight ended and because he knew the PPV sales were abysmal.

    As for Hearn-Yes he offered Ortiz what I felt was a good amount. Ortiz turned it down for more. However don't forget this is to save the date because Miller-a guy who shouldn't be fighting AJ ahead of Ortiz, tested positive. It's not like Hearn tried to make the deal initially.

    Haymon isn't blocking fights alone. Hearn and Arum are doing it as well. Just because you capitalize the word facts doesn't make it so.

    Deflecting? On the contrary I am proving my point about you as a poster with actual facts-your thread creation history. It shows you're a European that has a clear anti North American agenda and not a real boxing fan that is concerned about what ails the sport.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Jubei
      Breazeale doesnt have the capabilities, he looked pretty much terrible in his last couple fights, he also didnt win half a round vs AJ and got totally destroyed. Also Breazeale is promoted/managed by Haymon, he might tell him what to do and what not in the fight, get some good money under the table, same as Malik Scott took that dive vs Wilder.
      Wilder is not going to out box Breazeale. Wilder cannot take a big punch and hasn't fought anyone bigger then him to land it. Looking at Wilder being stunned by Fury who isn't even aggressive it's a no brainer , at least for me to take Breazeales here.

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        #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Bob isn't trying to make Spence/Crawford. he said what he did Sat night and then in the media to try and save face because the crowd was angry at the way the fight ended and because he knew the PPV sales were abysmal.
        I guess all great b.s. artists think alike

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          #54
          Originally posted by Jubei
          Breazeale doesnt have the capabilities, he looked pretty much terrible in his last couple fights, he also didnt win half a round vs AJ and got totally destroyed. Also Breazeale is promoted/managed by Haymon, he might tell him what to do and what not in the fight, get some good money under the table, same as Malik Scott took that dive vs Wilder.
          "He didn't win half a round Vs AJ"

          this just in: Wilder isn't AJ

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            #55
            Originally posted by Jubei
            Breazeale doesnt have the capabilities, he looked pretty much terrible in his last couple fights, he also didnt win half a round vs AJ and got totally destroyed. Also Breazeale is promoted/managed by Haymon, he might tell him what to do and what not in the fight, get some good money under the table, same as Malik Scott took that dive vs Wilder.
            "He didn't win half a round Vs AJ"

            this just in: Wilder isn't AJ

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            • Jubei
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              #56
              Ok latest news are that Wilder has such a "full plate" and his next fights planned against more inhouse dudes, that he will not even take a 50/50 offer vs Joshua, this is getting so embarrassing for the protected PBC fighter its hilarious.

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              • LacedUp
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                #57
                I'm beginning to get pretty sick of Al Haymon

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Bob isn't trying to make Spence/Crawford. he said what he did Sat night and then in the media to try and save face because the crowd was angry at the way the fight ended and because he knew the PPV sales were abysmal.

                  As for Hearn-Yes he offered Ortiz what I felt was a good amount. Ortiz turned it down for more. However don't forget this is to save the date because Miller-a guy who shouldn't be fighting AJ ahead of Ortiz, tested positive. It's not like Hearn tried to make the deal initially.

                  Haymon isn't blocking fights alone. Hearn and Arum are doing it as well. Just because you capitalize the word facts doesn't make it so.

                  Deflecting? On the contrary I am proving my point about you as a poster with actual facts-your thread creation history. It shows you're a European that has a clear anti North American agenda and not a real boxing fan that is concerned about what ails the sport.
                  A "good" amount? 7 million is a "good" amount?

                  When you leave a "it was a good amount but..." it sounds like you're deflecting big time. Ortiz's own manager came out and literally said they dropped the ball.

                  There's absolutely no reason to try to justify that.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    A "good" amount? 7 million is a "good" amount?

                    When you leave a "it was a good amount but..." it sounds like you're deflecting big time. Ortiz's own manager came out and literally said they dropped the ball.

                    There's absolutely no reason to try to justify that.
                    2 things:

                    1. This post was made before ortiz manager's comments.
                    2. Miller, who is ranked lower than Ortiz, was scheduled to make more than $7 mil so me calling it ' a good amount" in the context of this situation is fair.

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