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  • #31
    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    Well, nobody has to cut weight in the HW division, and a lot of the really big men do use their size to tire smaller opponents out by mauling and leaning on them up close. It remains to be seen whether those tactics will work against Usyk. That's one of the things that make his move up to HW so interesting. I expect he'll be a lot stronger when he can eat as much as he wants during camp, and it may give him extra pop in his punches.
    A good example of a big guy using his weight to tire smaller heavy is Wlad vs Povetkin where he leaned on him all night.Usyk moves more and should be able to avoid that much of a mauling so im glad to hear he plans on coming to heavy light.

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    • #32
      There's no need for Usyk to pile on loads of muscle, it would slow him down and take away his biggest attribute of movement. If he comes in at much more than 15st I'll be really surprised.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Luilun View Post
        He will beat all heavyweights weighing 205 . Kind of like Mayweather weighing 150 fight night beating guys weighing 170 fight night skills will prevail over size
        All except Joshua. AJ is a FREAK

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          I'm predicting he'll weigh in around 210 - 215 and see how the extra weight affects him. I think he's aiming for 220 - 225 ultimately, but will get there gradually over 2 or 3 fights.
          Ali Bashir said he's weighing 217 currently , not sure why the posters on here haven't learned to read the actual article when they know B Scene puts out misleading titles ? Lol

          Bashir went on to say he needs to bulk up a little for the HW division and said at his current weight he's filled out that he hasn't lost any speed and also said Wlad hasn't lost a step and expects him back in early September ?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Ali Bashir said he's weighing 217 currently , not sure why the posters on here haven't learned to read the actual article when they know B Scene puts out misleading titles ? Lol

            Bashir went on to say he needs to bulk up a little for the HW division and said at his current weight he's filled out that he hasn't lost any speed and also said Wlad hasn't lost a step and expects him back in early September ?
            When I read that April fools spoof report about Wlad signing with DAZN, the first name that popped into my head was Usyk!

            But I thought he had split with Ali Bashir, is he back with him now?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              When I read that April fools spoof report about Wlad signing with DAZN, the first name that popped into my head was Usyk!

              But I thought he had split with Ali Bashir, is he back with him now?
              No but Bashir fighter is helping Usyk out in sparring with ( Vlad Sirenko his fighter ) so Bashir is around and in all likelihood seeing over the camp while there with Klitchko lingering around ? I know Wlad and Usyk spar a lot , my guess is Wlad will be a sparring partner for Usyk.
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-05-2019, 08:34 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                No but Bashir fighter is helping Usyk out in sparring with ( Vlad Sirenko his fighter ) so Bashir is around and in all likelihood seeing over the camp while there.
                OK, thanks for the info.

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                • #38
                  When he gets hit, all will be revealed. The man could take a punch at CW, but these HW are 30 pounds bigger and athletic enough to score on Usyk at some point in a fight. He is #2 on my personal P4P list, but that is hypothetical. The leather flinging at his head will be real. I will always cheer for him, but this is not a division he will have many advantages. Bring your heart and your focus, Usyk, you will need both.

                  He feel. He very feel.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                    The same 150 Mayweather that needed illegally large amounts of saline IVs vs Pacquiao because he was "dehydrated" making 147?

                    Like yeah if those numbers were true, then we could say Usyk can also do it, but I'm starting to really doubt those "unofficial" numbers that said Floyd was 10 or 15 lbs smaller than his opponents but in reality he looked just as heavy or heavier, and the way his punches affected them, and the way he took their punches, suggested the same thing. I actually believe Floyd was 7 lbs smaller than Castillo, like Loma was 11 smaller than Salido, and you could see the effect in both of those fights. Floyd later fights at 147, even 154, never had that effect because I believe by then, he had filled out to the point he was one of the biggest welterweights, and those fight night weight numbers given by HBO or Showtime were fake. Just my opinion.

                    Also, a 150 lbs fighter can still maybe take one great punch from a 170 lbs guy, because it's still two medium to smaller men in the ring, but a 205 might not even be able to take one great punch from a 250 guy. The size difference is magnified at heavyweight. The weight class favors punchers more than boxers much more than welterweight does.
                    Agreed with everything you said. I was actually analyzing that about Floyd the other day, his fight night weights are suspect when you take into account the IV, going by the official story.
                    And yeah fighting a guy with a weight disadvantage is much easier at Welterweight than at Heavyweight.

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