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  • #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    The purpose of working on a hand shake is having the option to bolt if the other side doesn't live up to their word or doesn't continue to treat you well.

    How many times do we see fighters being held hostage? Forced to sit out by their promoter, or chewed up and spit out by a network after a loss or two, etc?

    PBC guys have protections other guys don't have. Their manager has a ton of leverage with promoters and TV networks, but the handshake arrangement of so much of what Haymon does is what creates this leverage.

    If Wilder had been locked into a long term deal with Showtime, he couldn't legally receive offers from DAZN and ESPN and Showtime wouldn't then be scrambling to increase what they pay him.

    Haymon has orchestrated the biggest fights in history. PBC has the biggest TV budget in history. Haymon has the largest collection of world class talent in history. Maybe there's a method to his madness?
    Yet he’s not able to make all the fights we want to see either. He’s just another fragment in a fragmented sport. If you’re actually a fan of the sport and want to see competition on it’s highest level, he’s not doing anything these other guys aren’t.

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    • #82
      I thought Espinoza is going to say, "It doesn't matter which network would carry the fights as long as they happen. I'm not going to be part of the problem."

      Or at least explain how he's going to make them happen, assuming he wants them on Showtime. Like I'm gonna give these UK fighters offers they can't refuse.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post
        And he turned it down? What is the point here? You think AJ isn't making much more? Canelo also making much more. They tried to get your boy in the ring and he tucked tail. As I said you clowns know these facts and it kills you. Wilder makes pennies compared to AJ and he will continue to do so while parading around with Fury's belt. You idolizing that show what kind of man you are. Lol take a walk boy.
        what about when wilder was willing to take 12.5 and in the UK if the fight was signed for 2018 and hearn wouldnt do it?

        what about the 50 mil AJ asked for and wilder came up with and hearn and AJ wouldnt do it? who really tucked tail?

        here are your offers to wilder

        12.5 flat
        15 flat
        and the DAZN deal....

        the DAZN deal leaves money on the table without US ppv

        hearn and AJ know what wilder wants...US ppv and he wants 40-50 percent...not once has hearn or anyone near AJ ever come close to being ready to get down with that

        because they are shook...plain and simple

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        • #84
          This editor is a well known worm,a mouthpiece for the Wilderettes and a liar himself always lurking around trying to manuipulate people in interviews , I guess that's why hes employed here ?

          The fact is you don't EVER walk away from career high paydays ,at least not ones that are over 7 times your highest pay and well over 10 times currently when you know accident s can happen in /out of ring and it gets thrown away.

          The article itself is a lie ( what else is new on boxing scene ?) Wilder was not given an end offer of a MUST 4 fight contract to fight Joshua, what B.S is that and how do these editors get away with posting blatent lies daily on here ?

          No what Wilder did was in FACT avoid the big fights and in the process made himself look like a fool by making him legally contracted to Showtime now with a possible loss on the way in his next fight ( one can only hope) so no, there is no logical thought process here declining multi millions and worrying about another mans pockets as the excuse ,since when ?

          Not even Finkel would agree to that he himself knows you take the highest offer and then build on what you win ( this is COMMON boxing business practice )...

          In the end I hope wilder gets knocked out and its a Great possibility so I can laugh my ass off on here at all the Wilder accountants on here who cant even add or put logical though process together anyway . lol
          Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-03-2019, 06:54 PM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
            Parker,Whyte, Breazele, Martin all got 1st L frm Aj....with exception of Martin...all still top 10 rankd
            i said whyte is good and decent...the rest of them arent that good.....thats just plain obvious.....anyone outside of the top 5 right now just isnt that good

            parker is not good
            brezeale is not good
            martin was trash

            whyte isnt bad....its just obvious....being ranked in a crap division doesnt mean much...its like being ranked top 10 4 years ago at MW

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
              what about when wilder was willing to take 12.5 and in the UK if the fight was signed for 2018 and hearn wouldnt do it?

              what about the 50 mil AJ asked for and wilder came up with and hearn and AJ wouldnt do it? who really tucked tail?

              here are your offers to wilder

              12.5 flat
              15 flat
              and the DAZN deal....

              the DAZN deal leaves money on the table without US ppv

              hearn and AJ know what wilder wants...US ppv and he wants 40-50 percent...not once has hearn or anyone near AJ ever come close to being ready to get down with that

              because they are shook...plain and simple
              Unfortunately a mediocre in popularity US boxer does not call the shots against a certified star in AJ. Again you spin quite the yarn but half truths as usual. This is obvious in your failure to even mention Fury. What does Wilder bring to the table at this moment? We all know Fury took that ass to school. Wilder wants to act like a star but he is not and you know it. It kills you clowns.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post
                Unfortunately a mediocre in popularity US boxer does not call the shots against a certified star in AJ. Again you spin quite the yarn but half truths as usual. This is obvious in your failure to even mention Fury. What does Wilder bring to the table at this moment? We all know Fury took that ass to school. Wilder wants to act like a star but he is not and you know it. It kills you clowns.
                fury took wilder to school yet DAZN still wants to throw tons of cash at some "mediocre in popularity US boxer"? lololol....like i said....your BS never adds up...it never does with AJ fans

                everyone else doesnt hold the cards over wilder...he has the WBC belt

                AJ cant unify without him...and fury cant either unless wilder gets beaten and fury beats that guy.......wilder holds a key card

                if wilder is such a scrub that got schooled by fury why does DAZN wanna overpay him? you have a logical answer that doesnt conflict with your previous statemetn? nah...u really dont

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                • #88
                  i love the AJ fans

                  on one hand they tell us wilder got schooled by fury..hes a nobody that deserves nothing

                  then they tell us he turned down this huge offer and hes ******

                  yet wilder has some of the most successful and powerful men in boxing in his corner.....and also im pretty sure DAZN wasnt just offering wilder something as an act of charity

                  thats the funny part...these clowns walk around here talking like DAZN is giving a handout...like they are a charity.....theyve looked at the numbers and feel wilder is worth at least what they said they offered....that doesnt jive with all of your claims

                  youd literally have to think DAZN is in the handout business if you believe all of the other BS you clowns say......if they are then fugg it! why not hand the charlos 50 mil each and heck...while were here....hand tank davis a cool 30 mil for a fight.....since its charity and all! LOL

                  again...the AJ fanboys...their stuff never adds up

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
                    Hate from bigots, racists, and “empire” raised ultranationalists in 3-2-1......
                    We live in your head don't we?

                    There should be a national warning to everyone in the country to be on the lookout for an American who lies about being British in case he breaks into our houses while we sleep just to get his hands on our dirty underwear so he can give them a real good sniff.

                    I'm watching out of my window on the hour every hour and double locking the doors and windows in preparation for you. Not on my watch will you sniff my dirty underwear you complete arse bandit.

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                    • #90
                      Wilder and his team of chumps just can't stop lying and making fools of themselves every time they open their mouths. This is just embarrassing now.

                      Put them all in a meat grinder and rid this world of this filth. They obviously have no shame. Nor does Wilder's few weirdo fans who also lie constantly and can't stop contradicting themselves like the deranged window lickers that they clearly are.

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