Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Let's Get Back To Making Biggest Fights For Wilder

[Jax teller]

you guys are sooooo delusional......I could refute your stories but you will tell me it didn't happen or that im wrong...or parrot hearns other version of the actual facts and tell me im full of it...no point....but just know you are very delusional

You could but it would be all bulls.h.i.t since nothing I said wasn't facts.

Where's the showtime offers to back what they say about it being worth more?

It's you guys that whimper "b-b-but it would be a waste of time better off giving Frank Warren more details of the 50 mil offer to Anthony Joshua"

Or the "b-b-but Hearns a liar we can read his mind he's not letting AJ on another network no matter what" LMAO one of you cucks are still to provide an actual quote of Hearn saying AJ can't fight on another network and not just some Boxing scene article title which wasn't a representation of the material in the article or a quote from it.

[Jax teller]

I don't have a problem with rematch clause, so long as the winner gets the fight where they want, and you don't have to sign a 2-3 fight contract with a network in order to get the fight!

If they both want rematch that's a 2 fight deal. Hearn said Wilder can have just the two Joshua fights, we're just gonna have to wait till the next round of fights are over now to see how true this is.

[N/A]

well it remains to be seen if his "freedom" is gonna get him more money. for someone who's a free agent...he sure seems to be loyal to showtime, where in this instance, he's being paid less.

Haymon's guys are only able to get away with being free agents because they've shown this kind of loyalty over and over.

[Jax teller]

... if Anthony Joshua is getting a rematch clause.

Funny how you ignored that bit.

Well AJ does want one (standard champ stuff Wilder had one if he lost against Fury) so Wilder will want one.

Sooo your post irrelevant.... funny that.

[Jax teller]

Anthony Joshua had a verified offer in hand for $50m against 50% (with an alleged $30m against 40% if they both chose to do the rematch); what are you talking about?

Joshua said no, and Wilder's camp ended up moving on.

Both will fight their fights, and Wilder's camp will make the same 50/50 offer (since Joshua has publicly already argued that the money didn't actually matter, Wilder's camp likely drops the $50m guaranteed part).

SHOPPV, Sky Box Office, MGM Resorts.

What grounds would Joshua have to again walk away?

Wasn't verified keep adding your spin to Hearn saying he believes they're good for the money although he hasn't seen proof. Plus Wilders team never mentioned that 30 mil rematch only Warren who said it was funded with BT which would have meant AJ having to paying Sky their share which would be a lot.

What grounds would Joshua have for walking away from 50 mil , probably something along the lines of DAZN guaranteeing 60 mil since Hearn said AJs offer from DAZN in comparison to Wilders 40 mil a fight was along the lines of the talked about 60/40 split. Showtime are probably gonna have to up their offer at the end of the day even if it's just to guarantee the difference DAZN are and give Wilder the rest until it's 50-50 and split the upside shouldnt be a problem though if the fights as big as you guys make out and apparently Wilders popularity rivals Mayweather as this fight is all of a sudden as big as Mayw vs Pac.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

lolol....charles martin? hahahaha...parker isnt much...brezeale were about to find out isnt much...and miller hasnt beaten anyone of note yet(thats what people say about ortiz)......whyte is the lone good win and i dont think hes that great but ill rate it the best

none of those guys pack fight ending ability like wilder....none of them

those are not risky fights you listed...wilder is RISKY and we all know that

DAZN will do the deal if they know they have the winner locked in...thats why they tried to sign wilder....without having wilder in the fold they dont want the fight on legit terms with a good split and US PPV....because if AJ loses they arent left with much in their investment of him....

thats why theyre happy to make the fight if wilder signs a multi fight deal with them....they know they have the winner guaranteed signed with them

but AJs people wont go to wilders people with a legit split and US PPV deal in place...which is the logical deal to make by far

Parker,Whyte, Breazele, Martin all got 1st L frm Aj....with exception of Martin...all still top 10 rankd

[Real King Kong]

Haymon's guys are only able to get away with being free agents because they've shown this kind of loyalty over and over.

Kinda defeats the purpose of being a so called free agent. Well it sounds cool anyway.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

lolol....charles martin? hahahaha...parker isnt much...brezeale were about to find out isnt much...and miller hasnt beaten anyone of note yet(thats what people say about ortiz)......whyte is the lone good win and i dont think hes that great but ill rate it the best

none of those guys pack fight ending ability like wilder....none of them

those are not risky fights you listed...wilder is RISKY and we all know that

DAZN will do the deal if they know they have the winner locked in...thats why they tried to sign wilder....without having wilder in the fold they dont want the fight on legit terms with a good split and US PPV....because if AJ loses they arent left with much in their investment of him....

thats why theyre happy to make the fight if wilder signs a multi fight deal with them....they know they have the winner guaranteed signed with them

but AJs people wont go to wilders people with a legit split and US PPV deal in place...which is the logical deal to make by far

by ur wack logic...Aj can fight all top 10 but wont b takn a risk if he isnt fightn Wilder.

[N/A]

Kinda defeats the purpose of being a so called free agent. Well it sounds cool anyway.

The purpose of working on a hand shake is having the option to bolt if the other side doesn't live up to their word or doesn't continue to treat you well.

How many times do we see fighters being held hostage? Forced to sit out by their promoter, or chewed up and spit out by a network after a loss or two, etc?

PBC guys have protections other guys don't have. Their manager has a ton of leverage with promoters and TV networks, but the handshake arrangement of so much of what Haymon does is what creates this leverage.

If Wilder had been locked into a long term deal with Showtime, he couldn't legally receive offers from DAZN and ESPN and Showtime wouldn't then be scrambling to increase what they pay him.

Haymon has orchestrated the biggest fights in history. PBC has the biggest TV budget in history. Haymon has the largest collection of world class talent in history. Maybe there's a method to his madness?

[doom_specialist]

People saying Wilder doesn't deserve 50% keep forgetting that Joshua has to sell 4 times what Wilder does to make the same money, and Wilder's last fight outsold Joshua's last 2 (I know, Fury is solely responsible for a good PPV turnout on American TV :sarc). Joshua may get a better percentage, but both fighters are bringing in the same level of money, so 50% is not farfetched. Joshua won't get that type of money with any other dance partner

That all said, Wilder could have accepted the 40% deal, and the 4 fight $120M deal IMO, but I understand being ****ed around and not wanting to do business with people. I'm also a fight fan though, and prizefighters are supposed to fight for the prize, so both sides need to get their **** together and stop all the posturing.