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  • #51
    Originally posted by j.razor View Post
    You was saying Pvssy G deserved 50/50 with Nelo but you have a problem with this?!?!
    never said that...u confused ....nobody deserves 50/50 with cashcows Canelo or AJ.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by TexasCowBoy View Post
      This picture makes the wilderettes go wild.....
      That pic is fake just like the primitive haters here.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
        How close to the 20 million?..... 13 million apart?

        I don’t really have a problem Wilder rejecting the deal so long as he makes the fight after Brezeale. He will dispose of Brezeale relatively easily so I don’t think he is taking a risk in not accepting the deal. However , when he goes on to say 50/50 that’s when I question whether he really wants to fight
        Split the pie fair, and end all this "here's this fee I want to offer you" nonsense.

        Whether it's 50% or 40%, or some other number, Wilder is laying his marker on getting a fair share of the whole event, and it's about time folks acknowledge that.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
          Wilder wants a rematch clause.
          ... if Anthony Joshua is getting a rematch clause.

          Funny how you ignored that bit.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post
            Joshua and Fury aren't on Showtime so can't make biggest fights. Wilder scared to fight Fury again and tucked tail from AJ without AJ even touching him. He has no value since everyone knows Fury is the rightful WBC and Lineal champ. AJ has all the other belts. Wilder looks like a joke much like his fanboys trying to spin his ducking.
            Huh? FURY is the one who walked away from the purse bid for the Wilder fight. Then FURY'S promoter announced that he wouldn't make the Wilder fight until early 2020 at the earliest. How does any of that equate to Wilder being scared?

            You anti-Wilder fans are really something.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
              Where does this narrative even come from after Hearn has said a thousand times the fight can go to the highest bidder and we are yet to see showtime make any offers bigger than DAZN or at all this year?

              Think about it the one offer Showtime sent (nearly a year ago) they didn't want to talk about it, literally.
              Anthony Joshua had a verified offer in hand for $50m against 50% (with an alleged $30m against 40% if they both chose to do the rematch); what are you talking about?

              Joshua said no, and Wilder's camp ended up moving on.

              Both will fight their fights, and Wilder's camp will make the same 50/50 offer (since Joshua has publicly already argued that the money didn't actually matter, Wilder's camp likely drops the $50m guaranteed part).

              SHOPPV, Sky Box Office, MGM Resorts.

              What grounds would Joshua have to again walk away?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                Split the pie fair, and end all this "here's this fee I want to offer you" nonsense.

                Whether it's 50% or 40%, or some other number, Wilder is laying his marker on getting a fair share of the whole event, and it's about time folks acknowledge that.
                Wilder said 50-50 or no fight.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Anthony Joshua had a verified offer in hand for $50m against 50% (with an alleged $30m against 40% if they both chose to do the rematch); what are you talking about?

                  Joshua said no, and Wilder's camp ended up moving on.

                  Both will fight their fights, and Wilder's camp will make the same 50/50 offer (since Joshua has publicly already argued that the money didn't actually matter, Wilder's camp likely drops the $50m guaranteed part).

                  SHOPPV, Sky Box Office, MGM Resorts.

                  What grounds would Joshua have to again walk away?
                  What if DAZN offers more?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                    Well dazn was looking to make it up on the aj fights. I’m not sure showtime wants to lose money on this fight when there’s no guarantee they’ll even be involved with a Joshua fight. I doubt wilder is getting close to 20mil for this, and I’m genuinely interested in hearing the details if they claim he will.
                    "Making it up on the AJ fights" would mean they can afford to pay more for the AJ fights if they don't have to overpay for the Breazeale fight. So Wilder will surely be looking for more than 40 for AJ now.

                    As for what Wilder is getting for Breazeale, I agree it's unlikely to be 20, but not having to sign a four fight deal, and being able to get more for the AJ fights, it would stand to reason that he'd probably prefer a one fight deal for 15 than get 20 but be locked in for several more fights.

                    But another important factor is, DAZN is a flat fee for worldwide rights. Whereas Showtime is simply buying the US rights and Wilder can make additional funds selling foreign rights. So, for instance, Showtime could give him 12 million, he makes 3 million elsewhere, winds up with 15 total instead of 20, but maintains his freedom.

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                    • #60
                      So in short they turned down 120 million and the 2 Joshua fights so they can have a look at trying to make the joshua fight. Great.

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