Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Let's Get Back To Making Biggest Fights For Wilder

[Sid-Knee]

What does that have to do with Breazeale?

What?? We're talking about AJ and Wilder. AJ isn't going to have a one off fight without a rematch clause. No champ, and especially a big star, is going to have any unification or voluntary without one.

You also didn't tell me the purpose of Wilder being a free agent if he's not going to fight anywhere else other than Showtime?

As I say, you avoid questions. You even quoted the post the question was on.

[Sid-Knee]

You Brit-fans will realize one day, all of Wilder's fights are big. Even if he loses. it will be a hiuge fight. Because everyone inderstands that at any moment the opponent (ANY OPPONENT) could get blasted!

No matter who he fights it's tense and probably will have a big ending. Stop whining and hating, y'all aint missing no money. We all know that after that whining is done you're placing bets on Wilder to knock peeps out.

Then calling the KO'd dude a bum.

Let the big boys work out their deals. Lower your blood pressure. Stop grinding your teeth. The fights WILL happen. EVERYONE is gonna have to make some concessions is all.

LoL!!

AJ has made plenty of concessions. He's giving 40% even though a huge A side has never given that to a weak B side before. He'll fight on US soil. He'll give Wilder a rematch clause even though that hasn't been done before either.

Tell me what the f3ck Wilder is giving considering he's not the star here? Tell me which other star in history has given what AJ is willing to give? You've got nothing.

People are calling Wilder out for being a delusional coward who is deranged and greedy. The dude isn't settled in reality. Neither are his equally deluded and deranged fans either.

[Sid-Knee]

So you completely ignored my post to respond with lame jokes, and show your affection for Joshua's bank account. I addressed everything in your post before you said it. Being the 3rd or 4th highest paid guy in the sport is a "pittance" only to fans, unless you can show me all the other guys cashing their 8 figure "nothing" checks.

You said they weren't far off being equal in the money split. If you can't see what a load of bullshlt that is then you need serious help. They are far from being equal.

Without Fury and AJ, Wilder makes a pittance. He got paid just over 2 Mill for the Ortiz fight. Then he had the Fury fight on PPV and got his biggest payday of 7 Mill. The only way Wilder gets more money without Fury and AJ is if Showtime lose millions on the joke by massively overpaying him like they're doing for the Brezeale fight. If Showtime want to keep doing that, they'll lose an awful lot of money because Wilder doesn't generate much income.

Whyte, Haye, Canelo, Bellew, Fury, Chisora, AJ, Khan all earn more money on average to what Wilder does. Take that Fury fight away, and Wilder earns very little. Put Fury in with most of these, and they blow the money Wilder/Fury earnt away.

[brettWall]

How can you make such big fights when you can't even acknowledge that Wilder is the clear B side of the negotiations?

[doom_specialist]

You said they weren't far off being equal in the money split. If you can't see what a load of bullshlt that is then you need serious help. They are far from being equal.

Without Fury and AJ, Wilder makes a pittance. He got paid just over 2 Mill for the Ortiz fight. Then he had the Fury fight on PPV and got his biggest payday of 7 Mill. The only way Wilder gets more money without Fury and AJ is if Showtime lose millions on the joke by massively overpaying him like they're doing for the Brezeale fight. If Showtime want to keep doing that, they'll lose an awful lot of money because Wilder doesn't generate much income.

Whyte, Haye, Canelo, Bellew, Fury, Chisora, AJ, Khan all earn more money on average to what Wilder does. Take that Fury fight away, and Wilder earns very little. Put Fury in with most of these, and they blow the money Wilder/Fury earnt away.

I said they weren't far off in the PPV money they generate, and Wilder only has one PPV fight, which outsold Joshua's last 2, and that's cold hard facts reported by this site. Wilder not being a lucrative draw for Showtime is ridiculous.

Haye is retired. Bellew is retired. Fury's only fight in 2 years is with Wilder, and Wilder earned during Fury's retirement, so Wilder's average is actually higher. Don't make anyone laugh with Whyte and Chisora. Those pointless arguments aside, Wilder with 325K views makes more than Joshua. If Joshua finally grows a pair and fights Wilder in the US at $99.99 a pop, then 50-50 is worth it. Wilder is only getting more popular and making more money, and if you can deny that then you're blind.

[Laligalaliga]

I said they weren't far off in the PPV money they generate, and Wilder only has one PPV fight, which outsold Joshua's last 2, and that's cold hard facts reported by this site. Wilder not being a lucrative draw for Showtime is ridiculous.

Haye is retired. Bellew is retired. Fury's only fight in 2 years is with Wilder, and Wilder earned during Fury's retirement, so Wilder's average is actually higher. Don't make anyone laugh with Whyte and Chisora. Those pointless arguments aside, Wilder with 325K views makes more than Joshua. If Joshua finally grows a pair and fights Wilder in the US at $99.99 a pop, then 50-50 is worth it. Wilder is only getting more popular and making more money, and if you can deny that then you're blind.

how can a guy earning 2mil with one belt be requesting for 50/50? The brother clearly dnt want the fight.
Why all these long argument? 100mil was on the table which is far more than his worth but the brother ran behind showtime and be screaming "am a free agent".
How funny.
LMAO.

[MastaBlasta]

Also Wilder got a rematch clause incase he lost to Fury so it's not like he's opposed to them either, you guys really have no point to make by saying this.

Not true. A contracted rematch clause is able to be enforced. Wilder/Fury had an"agreement" to do a rematch ... that Fury backed out of (for the time being anyway). You can't back out of contracted rematches ... barring serious injury, retirement, etc. Boxing commissions, courts will enforce the contract. An agreement is just a handshake ... your word. Courts won't enforce it. You are aware your hearnie-dad puts all his rematches on paper, in the CONTRACT.

[Jax teller]

Not true. A contracted rematch clause is able to be enforced. Wilder/Fury had an"agreement" to do a rematch ... that Fury backed out of (for the time being anyway). You can't back out of contracted rematches ... barring serious injury, retirement, etc. Boxing commissions, courts will enforce the contract. An agreement is just a handshake ... your word. Courts won't enforce it. You are aware your hearnie-dad puts all his rematches on paper, in the CONTRACT.

Finkel said they had a rematch clause in place for a loss for Fury but not the draw, go find it on YouTube somewhere. Most champs include rematch clauses and more to the point AJ wants one so therefore so will Wilder, therefore 2 fight deal, you've got no point trying to make an argument that isn't there to be had.

[doom_specialist]

how can a guy earning 2mil with one belt be requesting for 50/50? The brother clearly dnt want the fight.
Why all these long argument? 100mil was on the table which is far more than his worth but the brother ran behind showtime and be screaming "am a free agent".
How funny.
LMAO.

Why does what Wilder make change between every Joshua apologist I talk to? Why does WHAT HE BRINGS IN never register with you guys?

[j.razor]

You can do more than argue. You can call out the lies that this rat is saying because DAZN offered Wilder his mandatory plus the 2 fights he wanted against AJ. It was never about locking him into deals what so ever. Arum may have done that, but not DAZN.

What are Wilder and his team of cowards and liars going to say when they offer just the AJ fights? It will be laugh out loud excuse making like it always was.

dazn never promised D.Wilder the Aj fight. dazn just started & put in a lot of money so they don't want to put all the chips on the table yet. The PBC Team is learning not to be played out or sell out. Just ask vanes....LOL