Comments Thread For: Wilder, Fury, Joshua: Big Three Playing Heavyweight Roulette

[AdonisCreed]

No.. eddie is the reason for all the hate on AJ... Miller is the toughest opponent.. but, Wilder agreed to 15m to fight AJ in the U.K. eddie went another direction. That's not Wilder's fault.. I understand that AJ couldn't accept the 50 million bc of his contract with sky.. but eddie openly admits that he wanted to build the fight first with Povetkin. Wilder felt disrespected.. and now wants 50/50 which is fair.. considering, both men are risking their lives equally.. and AJ isn't shadow boxing in the ring by himself.. at Wembley in front of 70,000 brits.. and Wilder is the biggest and most interesting Draw vs AJ in the UK.. and he brings the entire American market.. and 50/50 split will give eddie and AJ the highest paycheck to date.. even if they give Wilder 50/50.. but the problem is greed. Eddie thinks he can do whatever he wants and make all the cash.. while the two fighters beat each other to death. Smh.. *** eddie.. snake headed b*stard.. im not hating on AJ no moe bc of that fool.. it took me a while.. but its these lame azz promoters/ managers that are ***ing everything up.. this goes for shelly.. u slimy rat bastard.. and frank warren's pop eyed, goldfish looking azz!!! An triple *** bob arum's fat killer clown from outerspace looking azz! Lol. Its about the fighters taking the risks.. not the pieces of ***** taking advantage of fighters and fixing their lips to say what another man risking his life deserves.. *** them.. Im turning on the promoters now.. us fans need to band together.. U.S and U.K fans.. and lets pay all fighters what they deserve for risking their lives to entertain us!

That is the main problem period GREED!!!!! All 3 fighters and the different PROMOTERS involved WANT TO MAX these guys OUT! And the fans bicker and argue thru social media and defend their favorite fighters like they know them on a first name basis lol

[N/A]

It is inevitable in every circumstance that a world champion 33 fights into his career is going to be expected to face tough competition and thus when his own manager at the time was saying that he was a 'baby heavyweight' and wasn't ready to face Klitschko he was going to get some stick.

This site is flooded with UK trolls, so I expect Wilder to get some "stick" no matter what.

He had essentially no amateur background. Picked up his first pair of gloves AS AN ADULT. Was knocking nearly everyone out in a round or two. I think it was completely reasonable for him to have 32 fights to gain experience, work himself through the ratings and become the mandatory.

Once he won the title, Klitschko had already committed to fighting Jennings on HBO. I think it was completely reasonable for his manager to say, he just won the title, clearly the Klitschko fight isn't next, let's get him two quick title defenses to get him ready for Klitschko.

You can't duck a guy that isn't available anyway! Finkel managed both sides, knew Klitschko wasn't available, and decided to get Wilder some experience as champion. What's wrong with that?

Also it's probably worth noting that Eric Molina was a last-minute replacement for Klitschko when Klitschko decided he wanted more time before fighting Joshua... thus Hearn and Finkel weren't even working to the same plan as you call it.

Hearn may have said that in an IFL interview, but that's not what actually happened. If Hearn had really wanted Klitschko next, he would have scrapped the December 10 fight instead of insisting Joshua defend that date no matter what. Due to legal nightmare that is the WBA super & world titles at heavyweight, getting WBA sanction took forever and Klitschko wasn't willing to fight without that sanction.

Hearn had always wanted to squeeze in another defense, allow Klitschko to get older, make sure Klitschko didn't take a tune up, etc. Hearn played it brilliantly. Using the WBA as always to do his bidding.

[Jax teller]

And the Wilder fanboys have added "Hearn says the fight can only happen on DAZN" to their list of other fake facts such as .. "Hearn verified the $50million offer" and "Hearn signed Ortiz to keep him away from AJ"

Even if you correct them they disappear for a couple days and comeback saying the same nonesense again, these guys are insane.

[Deus]

This site is flooded with UK trolls, so I expect Wilder to get some "stick" no matter what.

You're absolutely right; all of the Wilder criticism is from UK fanboys who are biased against Wilder as Wilder is the greatest there has been, is currently and will ever be.

Oh hang on a second... Wilder got stick for ducking Klitschko at the time on this very site way back in 2015 long before all the UK trolls arrived:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665740

[5000boxing]

Wilder brings the entire american market....lol!! he is the most unpopular multiyear US HW champ EVER!! one ppv fight in 40 fights and years as champ - and ONLY thanks to Fat FLABBY Fury who he got a gift draw against! has one belt to AJ's 3...50/50?? ridiculous!

Is that u eddie? Bc I know this isn't a fan. Bc I'm supporting fans and fighters.. unless u can't read.

[5000boxing]

That is the main problem period GREED!!!!! All 3 fighters and the different PROMOTERS involved WANT TO MAX these guys OUT! And the fans bicker and argue thru social media and defend their favorite fighters like they know them on a first name basis lol

Exactly.. they fooled us all for a while.. but this is a new day.. and the smoke has cleared and we can now see what's truly going on.. an who is causing all the problems... these lame azz greedy promoters and Manager's!

[MC Hammer]

do you have any problems fighting Breazeale on DAZN for 20mil?
After all hez a free agent doe.

I have no problem with it, but what does that have to do with anything? He didn't want to be locked into dazn where Joshua could negotiate his wage based on what Wilder was getting. He getting similar payment from Showtime and can still fight a big fight anywhere. "AJ a free agent doe" too, why don't he try to get the fight on Showtime?

[N/A]

You're absolutely right; all of the Wilder criticism is from UK fanboys who are biased against Wilder as Wilder is the greatest there has been, is currently and will ever be.

Oh hang on a second... Wilder got stick for ducking Klitschko at the time on this very site way back in 2015 long before all the UK trolls arrived:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=665740

I didn't say he only gets stick from UK trolls, just that he'll get stick no matter what he does. UK trolls don't have a monopoly on being wrong though. Here's a post from the thread you linked that sums up why the "Wilder is ducking Klitschko" stuff was so ****** then and is ****** now:

"Wlad is booked for April and has locked down an arena in Germany for an October fight vs. Briggs, so his dance card is full for 2015 anyway.

A unification not taking place immediately after someone wins a belt isn't ducking. In fact, very few unifications take place right away.

And seeing how K2 hasn't made an offer to fight Wilder, it's hard to say he's ducking anything. He can't turn down what hasn't been offered."

[Redgloveman]

Finkel said he wanted Wilder to make two quick defenses before turning his sights to Klitschko.

What did Hearn have Joshua do when he won a title? Make two quick defenses before turning his sights to Klitschko.

In both instances, when Finkel wanted to do, and what Hearn ended up doing, were what any competent handler would do.

Why is Wilder crucified for his manager wanting to do the exact thing Joshua ended up doing?

One of them talked about it and one of them did it...

It’s not rocket science.

[Deus]

I didn't say he only gets stick from UK trolls, just that he'll get stick no matter what he does. UK trolls don't have a monopoly on being wrong though. Here's a post from the thread you linked that sums up why the "Wilder is ducking Klitschko" stuff was so ****** then and is ****** now:

"Wlad is booked for April and has locked down an arena in Germany for an October fight vs. Briggs, so his dance card is full for 2015 anyway.

A unification not taking place immediately after someone wins a belt isn't ducking. In fact, very few unifications take place right away.

And seeing how K2 hasn't made an offer to fight Wilder, it's hard to say he's ducking anything. He can't turn down what hasn't been offered."

Except we know that post was wrong don't we? He didn't face Briggs in October.

K2 not making an offer is somewhat irrelevant when Wilder's manager had already said in the press that they wouldn't face Klitschko and considering that same manager was also Klitschko's manager it would have been pretty clear to them that it wasn't even worth making an offer.