Bob Arum Blasts Eddie Hearn: Calls Him Clueless

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    #31
    Originally posted by pillowfists98
    Percentage of what? Refreshment sales? There's no PPV on DAZN.
    Percentage of the whole promotion.

    DAZN's license fee for US rights, Sky PPV revenue in the UK, international TV rights, delayed broadcast rights, live gate, closed circuit, restaurants, sponsors, merchandise, yes refreshments, and all sorts of other revenue streams.

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      #32
      Originally posted by pillowfists98
      Percentage of what? Refreshment sales? There's no PPV on DAZN.
      Then what was the 40% fake offer from Hearn? You know the one he offered when Wilders team was negotiating with Fury and not answering Hearns emails. There’s always a percentage buddy.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Toffee
        Hearn openly admits to learning about the US Market as he goes.

        But when it comes to technological advancements in media I probably won't go to a guy in his 80s for his opinion.

        Every big media company, without exception, sees OTT as the way to go.

        If DAZN puts on Wilder v Joshua, they'll download the app.
        This right here. Casual boxing fans are less likely to download the app just because fighter A or fighter B signs...it’s when a big fight is made, and dazn is the way to watch it.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
          40 million guaranteed is a good offer but Wilders side wants a percentage on the back end. 40 is a tremendous number but when you look at it it isn’t nothing but another flat fee offer. I would bet my left nut Joshua is getting a percentage. Canelo as well. And neither one of them are making any significant impact on DAZN’s subscriber base. Last week I checked there was 40.3k downloads of the DAZN app on the iPhone App Store. Signing Wilder would at least triple that number. The man deserves a percentage.
          The thing is, it's not turning down 40M for the Joshua fights that are the risk. I could buy that there is a chance he could surpass that way on a PPV. However, it is the 20M guaranteed vs Breazeale and another 20M guaranteed against another non-Joshua opponent that is the biggest risk Wilder is taking. That's guaranteed 40M win, lose or draw any of the Joshua fights, or even the Breazeale fight. He could lose to Breazeale and still will be guaranteed another 100M.

          That is the big risk Wilder is taking here, not just the 40M for Joshua. I'm super intrigued in seeing how this plays out. Again, Wilder can very well come away with 50M against Joshua on SHO PPV and if they do a rematch depending on if he wins, he can get a similar payday or maybe a bit more.

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            #35
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            That's guaranteed 40M win, lose or draw
            No multifight boxing contract is guaranteed win lose or draw.

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              #36
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              The thing is, it's not turning down 40M for the Joshua fights that are the risk. I could buy that there is a chance he could surpass that way on a PPV. However, it is the 20M guaranteed vs Breazeale and another 20M guaranteed against another non-Joshua opponent that is the biggest risk Wilder is taking. That's guaranteed 40M win, lose or draw any of the Joshua fights, or even the Breazeale fight. He could lose to Breazeale and still will be guaranteed another 100M.

              That is the big risk Wilder is taking here, not just the 40M for Joshua. I'm super intrigued in seeing how this plays out. Again, Wilder can very well come away with 50M against Joshua on SHO PPV and if they do a rematch depending on if he wins, he can get a similar payday or maybe a bit more.
              People are acting like Wilder is making 3 million for Breazele. Espinoza didn’t give an exact figure but he gave the impression that Wilder was gonna make close to the DAZN offer. I believe his quote was “loyalty didn’t come cheap.” Or something like that which is an excellent quote.

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                #37
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                No multifight boxing contract is guaranteed win lose or draw.
                According to Idec this one is. That even if he lost the Breazeale fights he would still get the two Joshua fights and then another guaranteed fight for 20M. So technically he could go 0-4, and still come away with 120M. Now, could Idec possibly be wrong here? Maybe, but that is what was reported.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                  People are acting like Wilder is making 3 million for Breazele. Espinoza didn’t give an exact figure but he gave the impression that Wilder was gonna make close to the DAZN offer. I believe his quote was “loyalty didn’t come cheap.” Or something like that which is an excellent quote.
                  Of course he isn't getting just 3M. TR offered him 12.5M so you have to think he is getting around that much at least for this fight.

                  To be clear, I'm not saying Wilder is wrong here doing what he's doing. I'm fine with it. Just saying he was offered a great deal and is taking a huge risk. Obviously he feels confident he stops Breazeale and the DAZN deal will still be there for him or he gets the Joshua fight on SHO PPV.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    According to Idec this one is. That even if he lost the Breazeale fights he would still get the two Joshua fights and then another guaranteed fight for 20M. So technically he could go 0-4, and still come away with 120M.
                    Wrong. Keith never said that. Keith said Wilder still gets Joshua even if he loses to Breazeale, not that he gets him for the same amount of money. What Keith should have added was that Wilder would have to beat Breazeale in a rematch to still get Joshua and the total would have been less.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      Of course he isn't getting just 3M. TR offered him 12.5M so you have to think he is getting around that much at least for this fight.

                      To be clear, I'm not saying Wilder is wrong here doing what he's doing. I'm fine with it. Just saying he was offered a great deal and is taking a huge risk. Obviously he feels confident he stops Breazeale and the DAZN deal will still be there for him or he gets the Joshua fight on SHO PPV.
                      Wilders team wants the fight on Showtime. And Espinoza won’t let Wilder just walk. He said months ago that they have invested heavily in Wilder and Joshua building up this fight. And they feel the fight should be theirs.

                      TBH I don’t have a problem with what Wilder is doing either. This fight should’ve happened before the Parker fight and Hearn treated Wilder like he was some project kid on welfare. Now look at him 18 months later.

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