Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Spence-Garcia, Porter-Ugas, Golovkin, More

[Shadoww702]

he's mentioned his thoughts on that fight before. He said Martinez didn't walk into the ring limping, it was cotto's left hook that made Martinez knee unstable. Happened so early in the fight, it's tough to ever know what came first.

Sergio requested to use a knee brace and Cotto refused to let him. There was something definitely wrong with it.

If I remember correctly he slipped really good against Murray in that ****** fight outside in the rain. Ill have go back and watch it again?

[Shadoww702]

I thought Trout beating Cotto was a HUGE win! No one took Trout. And it was pretty much agreed that Cotto vs. Canelo was next. Canelo was sitting front row with an I love Cotto T-shirt on. Man he looked PISSED when Cotto lost...

The fight was also in Cotto's backyard and Trout had no major promotors backing him.

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Even without the knee, Maravilia was 39 years old had been out of the ring for 14 months and already looked shot against Murray. It doesn't mean Cotto shouldn't still get some credit, but in no world would I describe it as an ATG type win.

agreed.........

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Sergio requested to use a knee brace and Cotto refused to let him. There was something definitely wrong with it.

If I remember correctly he slipped really good against Murray in that ****** fight outside in the rain. Ill have go back and watch it again?

his knee definitely wasn't 100% and overall Sergio was orjbabkt diminsihed from age and layoff, but I don't think it was cripple status the way some portray it to be. You don't last 9 rounds taking that kind of punishment if your knee is completely shot.

[MrP4P]

That was spot on.

Theres other ways of looking at it I guess. The significance of the win itself. Cotto was a small Jr Middleweight moving up to 160 at the tailend of his career to take on the lineal champion and make history.

Youre absolutely right about Martinez, and I know he was just keeping the belt hostage, but you still have to execute when the bell rings, and at the very least not alot of people thought Cotto would dominate with ease like he did.

It was a great win. A historic win, as far as Puertorican fighters go, ATG? Maybe not but its not a crazy notion either. Its all subjective at the end of the day anyway

[Terrell1555]

he's mentioned his thoughts on that fight before. He said Martinez didn't walk into the ring limping, it was cotto's left hook that made Martinez knee unstable. Happened so early in the fight, it's tough to ever know what came first.

Your comment makes me think of Breads response to Cotto vs Martinez, and Mayweather vs Pac. I understand what Bread is saying and I wonder why the May/Pac naysayers don’t give that same energy to May/Pac? Pac clearly lost and showed no signs of any injury at anytime of the fight! To me the shoulder excuse was just that a very elaborate excuse to sullen Floyd’s clear win, and to make a serious excuse for a rematch! We all know that Floyd has only two rematches and they came after some feeling he lost. The vast majority of Fans and experts feel Floyd won easily so an immediate rematch wasn’t necessary. But Pac I think hurt his chances with the shoulder scheme, a scheme I have no doubt was cooked up by Bob Arum!

[Shadoww702]

his knee definitely wasn't 100% and overall Sergio was orjbabkt diminsihed from age and layoff, but I don't think it was cripple status the way some portray it to be. You don't last 9 rounds taking that kind of punishment if your knee is completely shot.

I agree. It was NOTHING even close to like Heiland!!! That guy couldnt even do the ring walk right.

[Smash]

hes right about the judging, im shocked if i see a good decision now, its that bad in some places, lots of fighters getting pure robbed of big wins and sometimes careers, disgraceful stuff and its all corruption and payments id say, they all know who they want to win and have to lean towards, its made clear to judges what u have to do, directly or indirectly

people say they are close fights but in reality they are bad decisions and we all know whos at the end of them and its not the hometown or big boys thats for sure

golovkin and FOD!!!!! bread will TRIGGER TRIGGER them again LMAO

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Your comment makes me think of Breads response to Cotto vs Martinez, and Mayweather vs Pac. I understand what Bread is saying and I wonder why the May/Pac naysayers don’t give that same energy to May/Pac? Pac clearly lost and showed no signs of any injury at anytime of the fight! To me the shoulder excuse was just that a very elaborate excuse to sullen Floyd’s clear win, and to make a serious excuse for a rematch! We all know that Floyd has only two rematches and they came after some feeling he lost. The vast majority of Fans and experts feel Floyd won easily so an immediate rematch wasn’t necessary. But Pac I think hurt his chances with the shoulder scheme, a scheme I have no doubt was cooked up by Bob Arum!

the shoulder excuse from pac is barely even credible. Martinez had a known surgery prior to his fight with Cotto. There was no word of a pac shoulder injury and then it was eventually healed without surgery but with salt water. The energy from that excuse comes from delusional pac fans who still argue that he beat Floyd, or that Márquez landed a lucky punch or that pac can still beat top. Welterweights like spence and Crawford.

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I agree. It was NOTHING even close to like Heiland!!! That guy couldnt even do the ring walk right.

Heiland was a complete gimp.