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  • Boxing_1013
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    #161
    Originally posted by travestyny
    How would anyone possibly know that?

    My guess would be much better than it looks now, but that's my opinion. Do you mean, for example, how Ethiopia would have been if Mussolini wasn't dropping bombs on it?
    Your earlier posts just seemed to designate a lot of blame on Europeans for the struggles of Africans when in reality many of the successes that Africa has had in its history have been as a result of interactions with Europeans. Just a weird comment from you to suggest otherwise and to blame Europeans for African/black failures.
    Last edited by Boxing_1013; 03-10-2019, 02:41 AM.

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      #162
      Originally posted by Boxing1013
      https://www.google.com/search?q=blac...P41kVTVvZBlKM:

      In that one crime category, whites may be a greater share than blacks. But in the total violent crime category, which encompasses many areas, ****s, burglaries, assaults, murders etc, that is where the 2 and 50 numbers comes in.
      Did it say blacks are more inherently, genetically criminogenic than other races? What factors were considered for the discrepancy?

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        #163
        Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
        That can’t be a real question, must be hyperbole. But here’s a real question:

        Can u name ANY case where, all circumstances being equal besides race, a Black person wasn’t given more time ?

        Look at Jeffery Epstein for example, his crimes r pretty indentical to R-Kelly’s, with the exception that their were more victims. But he got no jail time, only had to pay a minuscule fine and register as a sex offender, whereas Kelly will surely do time and have to register.

        Meanwhile Hollywood guys like Robert Dinero is linked to an underage sex ring in France, and Disney continues to hire convicted child Pedos to work the sets of its children shows. SMH
        Well Epstein wears a small hat and is a billionaire lol. R Kelly got away with a lot of **** too for a while lol because he is rich. Come on man

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          #164
          Originally posted by travestyny
          Median family income in a community?

          What community were they living in? Urban or suburban. What were the areas like? What was the exact incomes that they mention. Is it saying that the white statistics is the same exact income as the black statistics, or only going by the percentile?

          There is a lot that these numbers don't give details about.

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            #165
            Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
            Then he's confused and that sentence is totally meaningless.
            No it isn't. You're just misinterpreting what it's supposed to mean!

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              #166
              Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
              Trade and diplomacy was always more ideal than warfare. Africa has had more historical history in warfare than Europe imho, and Africans were no slouch to get down and dirty with warfare. Africans were amazing in warfare, but as we all agree, greed supersedes rational thinking, and Europeans easily bribed and persuaded with trade. African slave owners could easily supply the demand for trade, it wasn’t simply about coercion for warfare. The Europeans had trade that were of high interest to African Slave owners.

              This is a cryptic and dark context for many African Americans. Call that victim hood as well, but you can’t blame whites for slave trade.

              We need to own up.

              When we are talking about guns being given to neighboring tribes that were at war, it's clear to see why African Tribes would choose to give their prisoners of war in exchange. They were faced with being wiped out by neighbors or being taken by Europeans with guns.

              You're right that "trade and diplomacy" was always more ideal...but especially for Europeans. Slave raids were dangerous. If they could use coercion instead, that was the much safer route.

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                #167
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                Did it say blacks are more inherently, genetically criminogenic than other races? What factors were considered for the discrepancy?
                There have been studies which purport that blacks have a MAO-A gene which makes them more prone to violence, but I don't buy into those studies.




                When wealthy blacks commit more violent crime than poor whites, it does however throw a wrench in the argument that poverty is the reason behind the criminality.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Boxing1013
                  Your earlier posts just seemed to designate a lot of blame on Europeans for the struggles of Africans when in reality many of the successes that Africa has had in its history have been as a result of interactions with Europeans. Just a weird comment from you to suggest otherwise and to blame Europeans for African/black failures.
                  I'm not sure what you are talking about. The only thing I mentioned regarding Europeans and Africans was regarding the slave trade.

                  But if you want to believe that colonization and burning everything on your way out was good for Africa, then have at it. I just disagree.

                  You asked if Africa would have been better off if not for contact with Europeans. I simply stated that we can't know that for sure, but my hunch would be yes.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Boxing1013
                    So serious question - what would Africa look like today if it never came into contact with Europeans?
                    Much better than what it looks like now, that’s for sure. Ancient Kemit was the measuring stick for all other societies in its hay-day, and that was before European/Arab infiltration.

                    Do u realize that Africa is the richest continent on the planet, and simultaneously have the poorest people living on it ?

                    Do u realize that’s only because of white supremest political politics that have actually stated that not so much as pencil ever read “made in Africa”

                    AFRICA can’t sell its raw materials on the world markets due to racist European/WEstern political policy. Hence the bad shape Africa’s in dealing with these Europeans.
                    Last edited by SugarRaRobinson; 03-10-2019, 02:50 AM.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Boxing1013
                      There have been studies which purport that blacks have a MAO-A gene which makes them more prone to violence, but I don't buy into those studies.




                      When wealthy blacks commit more violent crime than poor whites, it does however throw a wrench in the argument that poverty is the reason behind the criminality.
                      Poverty isn't the only indicator. Colonization, anger, depression, inequality, overincarceration fueled by racism, all those contribute to crimes. Were they considered?

                      Indigenous people in Canada constitute 4% of the Canadian population, but they account for the highest inmate population in federal and provincial correctional facilities. Are they inherently criminogenic too?

                      What do those two countries have in common?
                      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 03-10-2019, 03:11 AM.

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