Joshua vs. Ortiz.

[dan_cov]

AJ late
I think Ortiz is ageing rapidly. He'll cause anyone problems but I don't think he beats the big three at this stage (Wilder, Fury and AJ). Stylistically I feel AJ is most winnable though.

[LetOutTheCage]

Joshua demolish's Ortiz. Povetkin > Ortiz and you saw what Joshua did to him

[champion4ever]

The same Ortiz that looked mediocre against Allen, Scott and Kaufman?

Maybe Wilder just makes fighters look better than they are i.e. Molina, Washington, Spzilka and somehow a 60% Fury look 100%. However to not be a complete hater, so far he has always got the job done which is all that matters when the dust settles. (close shave with Fury though).

I will make you this promise however; Ortiz will come in much better condition and in shape against Anthony Joshua than he did against Christian Hammer and that's a fact.

You are right when Ortiz struggled against both Allen and Scott under Matchroom; Many thought his career had reached the end of its course and were looking to write him off. However, they were wrong.

Just looked how he showed up and performed against Deontay Wilder. He damn near TKO him and probably would've TKO him had there been another referee.

So if Joshua sees Ortiz as cherrypick; He better beware and think again;' Because he is in for a rude awakening. I am not predicting an Ortiz victory but he is still very dangerous for an old man.

Moreover, he was probably just feigning in order to lure Anthony Joshua and other top contenders to get in the ring with him by appearing vulnerable in the ring, not training hard and getting him self in the best of shape against the 115th ranked heavyweight in the world.

[Jax teller]

I will make you this promise however; Ortiz will come in much better condition and in shape against Anthony Joshua than he did against Christian Hammer and that's a fact.

You are right when Ortiz struggled against both Allen and Scott under Matchroom; Many thought his career had reached the end of its course and were looking to write him off. However, they were wrong.

Just looked how he showed up and performed against Deontay Wilder. He damn near TKO him and probably would've TKO him had there been another referee.

So if Joshua sees Ortiz as cherrypick; He better beware and think again;' Because he is in for a rude awakening. I am not predicting an Ortiz victory but he is still very dangerous for an old man.

Moreover, he was probably just feigning in order to lure Anthony Joshua and other top contenders to get in the ring with him by appearing vulnerable in the ring, not training hard and getting him self in the best of shape against the 115th ranked heavyweight in the world.

Feigning seems a bit of a reach tbh, I think he is at that same stage in his career as Povetkin and Wilders lack of defence help make him look good just like Povetkin was getting the better of AJ for bit.

Shame that Ortiz's name has no value to it as I'd like to see him fight Povetkin before they retire just to see if there is much difference but there's no money there so it won't happen.