Joshua vs. Ortiz.

[Robbie Barrett]

So we're gonna act like that was a legit knockdown and not a headbutt?

It wasn't an headbutt.

[Rip Chudd]

It wasn't an headbutt.

But....it was

[Robbie Barrett]

But....it was

It was the punch before that made him go down. Keep making your excuses no big deal. Everyone saw Ortiz isn't as good as advertised.

[Rip Chudd]

It was the punch before that made him go down. Keep making your excuses no big deal. Everyone saw Ortiz isn't as good as advertised.

no it wasn't. I know you're saying it cause you hate Ortiz but making up lies isn't the way to go bro. It was a headbutt. There is no excuse to make, i'm calling it as it is. You're just trying to justify not liking Ortiz, it's cool bro. I know with you guys all roads lead to Wilder somehow

[Robbie Barrett]

no it wasn't. I know you're saying it cause you hate Ortiz but making up lies isn't the way to go bro. It was a headbutt. There is no excuse to make, i'm calling it as it is. You're just trying to justify not liking Ortiz, it's cool bro. I know with you guys all roads lead to Wilder somehow

It was the bodyshot that made him go down. Headbutt? Pls.... There was no force in it at all, more like an headbrush.

[Ray*]

The issue i have with both fighters is their endurance, but given Ortiz's age i would go against him. Joshua would probably have a few issues with him but i can see him stopping Ortiz late on.

[Damn Wicked]

I would predict a win for AJ and probably by KO.

[champion4ever]

Joshua is the easy and obvious favorite under the circumstances. Ortiz appears to be showing signs of slippage and decline. Perhaps, it's due to time or from a lack of training.

In any case, he did not resemble the same Luis Ortiz as we all are accustomed to seeing. Joshua should win by unanimous decision or TKO stoppage because the last to go on an aging fighter is his power and chin.

[champion4ever]

It wasn't an headbutt.

You may be right. I have to go back and review the tape. In real time it appeared to be a punch but in slow mo it appeared to be a head-butt.

[Jax teller]

Joshua is the easy and obvious favorite under the circumstances. Ortiz appears to be showing signs of slippage and decline. Perhaps, it's due to time or from a lack of training.

In any case, he did not resemble the same Luis Ortiz as we all are accustomed to seeing. Joshua should win by unanimous decision or TKO stoppage because the last to go on an aging fighter is his power and chin.

The same Ortiz that looked mediocre against Allen, Scott and Kaufman?

Maybe Wilder just makes fighters look better than they are i.e. Molina, Washington, Spzilka and somehow a 60% Fury look 100%. However to not be a complete hater, so far he has always got the job done which is all that matters when the dust settles. (close shave with Fury though).