Joshua vs. Ortiz.

[Vegemil]

I'd say Joshua around round 8?

[Phenom]

If AJ went 10 with Hammer and was bloodied up losing the last rounds this forum would be telling him to retire and there's a bout 20 years that separates the two .Ha

AJ went 10 with Takam and was getting roughed up before ref saved him from the embarrassment

Same caliber of fighters

[champion4ever]

this is all excuses. Ortiz was at his best weight since 2015, everyone but wilder fans acknowledge that.

That was water weight. He probably cut between 5-6 lbs of body water during the week of the fight because he was so out of shape. You saw just how flabby he was around the midsection.

Wilder has made guys like molina seem formidable so no i don't take anything wilder does in the ring and compare to what joshua does. You have to be missing a brain to do that ?

Well that's just an opinion and not a fact.

Christian didn't come to fight ? That's funny i must have missed the part where ortiz fell and was bloodied up .

That fall came from a head butt and yes that was a good counter right hand that Christian Hammer landed that bloodied Ortiz' nose.

The only thing you said correctly was ortiz was spent. That's because he throws a lot of punches and hes not effective if he doesn't and he ate a lot of right hands,so against joshua with his pace and joshuas he doesn't last long at all. Its an easy fight for joshuas counter right .

I never said that Joshua wouldn't be the favorite to win. All I am saying is that he would come in much better conditioning and shape the next time. Obviously he took Hammer lightly and paid for it dearly because he showed obvious signs of decline and slippage in his skills this time. His timing was off, he couldn't move out of the way of the counter right hands, he was gun shy and plus he was gassed.

[TheCell8]

AJ showed an ability to adapt vs. Povetkin and became the first person to stop him. It was an impressive victory.

Ortiz isn't as quick as Povetkin and isn't as difficult to figure out as Povetkin is able to move his body from side to side whereas Ortiz fights straight up and doesn't exactly move particularly well. AJ lands one straight right, which won't be too difficult, and Ortiz goes down hard.

[Chrismart]

Joshua by stoppage.

[uppercut510]

Seriously, did you even see the fight? What’s the attraction...AJ walks through 54 years old Ortiz in a round or two. Only Wilder fans think he’s a decent opponent.

styles make fights ortiz would pose some threats, i said aj would win what more do you guys want???? takam was a hard fight for him but not ortiz? i guess sir

[REDEEMER]

Trust me, just like Deontay Wilder; Luis Ortiz would be much more prepared to challenge the number 1 ranked heavyweight in the world as opposed to the 115th ranked one.

I believe part of his uneven performance was due to him not training hard and getting fit and prepared for this fight. In addition, Christian didn't come to fight anyway but just to merely survive. He was ready to give up but Ortiz was so spent he hardly had any energy left.

AJ went 10 with Takam and was getting roughed up before ref saved him from the embarrassment

Same caliber of fighters

AJ's fight was stopped , and Takam was saved in round 4 by the bell and he looked like he was jumped by a group of people when that fight ended. the two fights aren't remotely comparable. Takam also isn't the easiest guy to hit unlke slow stand in your face Hammer who has no footwork. Ha

[Robbie Barrett]

AJ went 10 with Takam and was getting roughed up before ref saved him from the embarrassment

Same caliber of fighters

Takam is a much better fighter than Hammer. Hammer dropped Ortiz FFS.

[Earl-Hickey]

Joshua knocks him out easily

Ortiz is a level below Povetkin and wouldn't even put up as spirited effort for a couple of rounds

[Rip Chudd]

Takam is a much better fighter than Hammer. Hammer dropped Ortiz FFS.

So we're gonna act like that was a legit knockdown and not a headbutt?