Better resume. Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones Jr?

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  • Fabes88
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    #41
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    In the latter part of his career, all Roy Jones Junior proved that he was a fighter and warrior. Lions fight until the end, until there is nothing left? Roy Jones Junior was just the same. It was only Bernard Hopkins wisdom that saved him from the same fate. I don't think fighters ruin their legacy when they are clearly way outside of their prime being beaten, in a way it is quite romantic. Basketall players can sit on a bench and play 20 minutes here and there, the same with NFL players, the end there careers is forgiving.

    Boxing is not a forgiving sport. It does not matter if Roy Jones was beaten by fighters who, could not really compete with him at his peak 'History is history, IT HAPPENED!'

    Roy Jones Junior had a better resume and legacy than Bernard Hopkins. People forget that he was not far off breaking Marciano's 49-0 record. But that record was so insignificant, he did not care.
    I have to disagree with you there. He ended up losing to guys like enzo macranelli ffs. Roy Jones stuck around for far too long to the point it ended up harming his legacy

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    • robertzimmerman
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      #42
      Originally posted by pillowfists98
      Hopkins had the better resume. Doesn't mean he was the better fighter of course but his wins after the age of 40 over Tarver, Wright, Pavlik and Pascal put him over Jones resume wise.
      Bernard's longevity was truly amazing. You have to give him huge props. He was still a world class fighter at almost 50. But Roy has the better resume.

      Roy went up in weight and fought naturally bigger guys. He then dropped back from HW to face Tarver, losing muscle in the process.

      Bernard's best wins were against guys who'd moved up, and who were naturally smaller than he was. You've mentioned the win over Winky, but that fight was fought at a 170 C-W when Winky was a career 154 pound fighter.

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      • Redsox
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        #43
        bernard has better resume. jones has better highlights

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #44
          Originally posted by lparm
          Bloody trolls such a waste of space
          Coming from the guy, who claimed Roy Jones ducked Joe Calzaghe.😂😂😂

          Certified nonce...

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          • lparm
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            #45
            What I love best about these ****** trolls is that I live inside their heads

            I don’t even give them the respect of quoting hahaha

            Bunch of dossers

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #46
              Originally posted by HitmanTommy
              Now that both of their careers have OFFICIALLY come to an end, who would you say has the better resume of the two?
              - -If you have to ask, you'll never know...

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #47
                Originally posted by Fabes88
                I have to disagree with you there. He ended up losing to guys like enzo macranelli ffs. Roy Jones stuck around for far too long to the point it ended up harming his legacy
                It has not harmed his legacy, because you can't take away his wins and everyone knew he was just basically fighting until he had nothing left 'His reaction after losing certain fights at the end of his career was as if he did not really care' he just enjoyed the competition. He probably did carry on abit too long, but for me his legacy is still better than Bernard Hopkins.

                Hopkins probably could of match himself better near the end of his career, when there was opportunity to fight Carl Froch? He should of took that fight, because he would of beat Froch. 'Stylistically, but to the casual fans? It would of appeared as if Carl Froch would of walked through Bernard Hopkins' Froch or some reason wanted that fight also for a short period.

                I rate Carl Froch highly by the way.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  Jones was the better fighter and won the fight when it counted. Hopkins' longevity closed the gap though but not sure if quite enough.

                  Hopkins did better with Tarver head to head and Johnson but Johnson barely counts for Jones and he was a far better fight then than he was vs. Hopkins. Jones got Toney which was a better win than anything Hopkins did. Trinidad was Hopkins' best win and I'd say that would probably be better than anything else Jones did. Jones' beating Hill, Johnson, Ruiz, Griffin and even an old McCallum are better than Hopkins wins over Fishnets, Wright, Pavlik, Holmes, Joppy for example.

                  Like I said it's close on resume. Hopkins' was legit undisputed at 160 whereas Jones unfairly got the WBA and IBF belts and never fought the guy who was clear #1 when he got to the division. Now Jones would have beaten Michalczewski, but he didn't. That was Jones' 3rd weight class after being the clear #1 at 160 and 168 before vacating each. Jones was the better overall talent and won when it counted so he gets the edge IMO.
                  It's unfair to say that Roy got the WBA and IBF belts unfairly.

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                  • robertzimmerman
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                    Hopkins had a better resume for sure
                    On what grounds?

                    His biggest wins were against guys who moved up.

                    All he has over Roy is his great longevity.

                    He doesn't have the better wins.

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                    • robertzimmerman
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                      “Avoided Calzaghe by not moving back down to super middleweight”. 😂😂😂 That’s the dumbest sh** I’ve ever heard.

                      You clearly didn’t follow boxing in the 90’s and you’re clearly thick as pig sh** if you genuinely believe what you are spouting.

                      I’m done humouring you, no more serious responses.
                      Don't bother with that guy.

                      He's a troll.

                      He's been claiming for years that Joe beat peak versions of Roy and Bernard.

                      It wasn't funny the first time.

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