Fury don't owe wilder nothing

[The plunger man]

Im sure you followed it very closely and hung off every word of Hearn or do you prefer I now call him 21st Century Jesus

We can agree that right now AJ/Wilder is the biggest fight to be made. The biggest financial fight that can be made . The biggest HW fight in decades . And historic with everything at stake and the winner will be seen as hands down this eras #1 HW and be forever in the History books for being Undisputed.

And I’m sure in your mind that has to be told How to think.

not budging from a flat fee offer of 12.5 and then reluctantly bump it to 15 last summer was very generous of 21st C.J to offer Wilder since it would be his highest payday he should have jumped at the opportunity when it was presented . Although a fight of this magnitude a flat fee is never given to the b-side it’s always a % and AJs previous opponet Parker was given a % and by every metric Wilder is a bigger name , has the bigger market . AJ/Wilder would exceeds AJ /Parker in every way .

How could you justify a flat fee for Wilder and Parker getting a %.
Let’s say the fight generates 100 million or even if it bombs let’s say 50 millions
why would Wilder even consider taking maybe12.5- 15% and just let 21CJ and AJ have the other 85% or even at 50 mil would give Wilder 30% and give the other 35-37.5 mil to AJ . You realize that Parker received a higher % then Wilder would have made . Even though with Wilder it’s a bigger fight. Does that seem fair

No fighter in the sport would allow themselves to get ****d in Negotiations and give them only a 12.5-15 - 25-30% of the total pie ( you have to admit the events success is a result of Wilder it’s not just AJ who’d make the fight huge )and have AJ the potential to make up to 85 mil . No one sells themselves so short in negotiations that they’d be laughed at within the Boxing community for ripping themselves off so bad even if it is a career high day . just to hand the remainder to the other side
its not a fair deal and was never a real attempt by 21CJ to make the fight. You have to agree
I know at this point you probably won’t because that have you going against 21CJ and what he told you is the truth. But those negotiatins were BS and just like when Oscar offered Gennady a 10 mil offer to fight Canelo and wasn’t even considered by Golovkins team because it was a joke. When Canelo/ Golovkin fought Gennady got a % like every other fighter who’s the b-side in a super fight but just like AJ is the only cash cow avoided . Wilder should also be expected to be the only B-side fighter in a super fignt to take a flat and not even come close to the revenue he brings to the fight


I’m sure you also believe that when 21CJ offered Wilder 40% for the Wembley fight he again should have jumped and come running to 21CJ for being so generous that even though according to you had every intention of holding the strap hostage and has proved this by going out of his way to fight the #3 & #4 HWs something AJ hasnt done can only be seen as reaffirming his cowardice. Now Hearn knew Wikder was in the middle of negotiating with Fury .No fighter or their team except appearantly Fury negotiate with 2 different parties at the same time. Wilder assumed Fury wasn’t a b.itch and wanted the rematch, if you know they’re in negotiations why send this great offer when you know it wouldn’t be looked at. Seems almost like a disingenuous offer to me that was ever intended to be looked at or considered .

Now that’s 2 offers that weren’t even expected to be taken and here we are after the AJ /Miller fight it’ll be a year since the flat fee was offered. And the fight isn’t on the horizon and it’s going exactly like 21CJ had hoped .

But to the groupie these 2 fake offers are proof 21CJ wants to make the fight and Wilder like every other fighter in his shoes wouldn’t accept those offers because the first one was a ra.pe and couldn’t be considered fair even if it was career high payday . And because of the timing of when it was offers was never intended to be looked at but don’t let the reality of the situation sway what 21CJ has programmed you to think and 2 offers that weren’t even serious are proof 21CJ wants the fight to you

Have you finished yet gumbo ? Wilder will now earn 2 million again ..thats your logic gumbo

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Does anyone actually read R_Walkens essays?

[R_Walken]

All you sudden Fury fans and UK apologist crying Fury was robbed

Using the Robbery excuse As a valid reason for Fury to run away from a rematch even though none will admit it’s Fury who’s looking like the guy who had his confidence taken and left
a part of his soul on the canvas in La .

the fighter who you guys claim was robbed and who most thought won is the one who ran away from a rematch. When was the last time that happend

Can any one remember the last time when the perceived winner of a controversial fight didnt want a immediate Rematch and instead viewed by most as running away from it

I seriously can’t ; Probably because it’s so rare that the winner in most eyes turns b.itch made and would rather give up righting the wrong then have the possibility of getting KOd


if fury won the rematch he would be the man who would be fighting AJ. Which would be the biggest HW fight in decades with everything imaginable on the line and the winner being unequivocally this eras #1 HW

He gave all that up just so He didn’t have to have Wilder possibly land another couple hammers on Fury but this time he probably wouldn’t have beaten the count. To me it appears Fury is shook
To the core and his invincibility he had because he was always the superior boxer left the moment he got dropped in the 12th and hasnt and might not ever return.

[R_Walken]

Have you finished yet gumbo ? Wilder will now earn 2 million again ..thats your logic gumbo

only 2 mil ,acting like that means he has to join you in the soup kitchen to get dinner tomorrow

I bet You won’t earn 2 million in your entire life ; yet your going to act like it isn’t sh.it and he still be making more then almost every boxer

But chump change according to a guy I bet still lives with his parents and has to ask permission to use the car

[R_Walken]

Wilder should have fought over here for the rematch with fury , and seeing as fury schooled wilder he was also the moral victor
I would also say it was furys name that mosty drew that 300k ppv numbers as well so unless wilders teams were prepared to play fair with fury he had every right to make his own plans.
So yeah he owes wilder jack squat.
I don't know him signing with arum is a good thing though as arum really is the Anti christ.
The dosser and the dosserettes can go kiss fury's ass now

This is a perfect example of how deluded most of you guys are and who’s love for your countrymen overrides reality, typing any ****** thought that comes to mind

weren’t you sh.itting on Fury before the fight , now you’re on his d.ick more then his wife pathetic

You realize you look straight ******ed to say Fury responsible for the PPV #s . You know Fury’s had 2 fights in the States , Cunningham in which no one watched and when he beat Klit that most thought was the worse fight they’ve ever seen ; Fury hasn’t had a fight viewed in the States in 4’year and he was responsible for the buys and not the guy who for the last 4 years his fights are always among the most watched in the States. Whos probably the most popular American fighter, But yeah they bought the PPV because of a Wikder

Yes Fury doesn’t owe Wikder or the fans a rematch but You guys making excuses and having Fury run away from the rematch as anything other then being shook and having his mojo took and running away from the rematch is a b.itch especially since most thought he won.

Seriously think a Moral Victor would run away from a rematch. Wilders probably the Moral Victor he lost in most people’s eyes but that KD in the 12th shook Fury so hard that his confidence still hasn’t returned and swerved a rematch just so there was no chance of Wilder hitting Fury with another couple A-Bombs and finished what he started in the 12th

[Laligalaliga]

Im sure you followed it very closely and hung off every word of Hearn or do you prefer I now call him 21st Century Jesus

We can agree that right now AJ/Wilder is the biggest fight to be made. The biggest financial fight that can be made . The biggest HW fight in decades . And historic with everything at stake and the winner will be seen as hands down this eras #1 HW and be forever in the History books for being Undisputed.

And I’m sure in your mind that has to be told How to think.

not budging from a flat fee offer of 12.5 and then reluctantly bump it to 15 last summer was very generous of 21st C.J to offer Wilder since it would be his highest payday he should have jumped at the opportunity when it was presented . Although a fight of this magnitude a flat fee is never given to the b-side it’s always a % and AJs previous opponet Parker was given a % and by every metric Wilder is a bigger name , has the bigger market . AJ/Wilder would exceeds AJ /Parker in every way .

How could you justify a flat fee for Wilder and Parker getting a %.
Let’s say the fight generates 100 million or even if it bombs let’s say 50 millions
why would Wilder even consider taking maybe12.5- 15% and just let 21CJ and AJ have the other 85% or even at 50 mil would give Wilder 30% and give the other 35-37.5 mil to AJ . You realize that Parker received a higher % then Wilder would have made . Even though with Wilder it’s a bigger fight. Does that seem fair

No fighter in the sport would allow themselves to get ****d in Negotiations and give them only a 12.5-15 - 25-30% of the total pie ( you have to admit the events success is a result of Wilder it’s not just AJ who’d make the fight huge )and have AJ the potential to make up to 85 mil . No one sells themselves so short in negotiations that they’d be laughed at within the Boxing community for ripping themselves off so bad even if it is a career high day . just to hand the remainder to the other side
its not a fair deal and was never a real attempt by 21CJ to make the fight. You have to agree
I know at this point you probably won’t because that have you going against 21CJ and what he told you is the truth. But those negotiatins were BS and just like when Oscar offered Gennady a 10 mil offer to fight Canelo and wasn’t even considered by Golovkins team because it was a joke. When Canelo/ Golovkin fought Gennady got a % like every other fighter who’s the b-side in a super fight but just like AJ is the only cash cow avoided . Wilder should also be expected to be the only B-side fighter in a super fignt to take a flat and not even come close to the revenue he brings to the fight


I’m sure you also believe that when 21CJ offered Wilder 40% for the Wembley fight he again should have jumped and come running to 21CJ for being so generous that even though according to you had every intention of holding the strap hostage and has proved this by going out of his way to fight the #3 & #4 HWs something AJ hasnt done can only be seen as reaffirming his cowardice. Now Hearn knew Wikder was in the middle of negotiating with Fury .No fighter or their team except appearantly Fury negotiate with 2 different parties at the same time. Wilder assumed Fury wasn’t a b.itch and wanted the rematch, if you know they’re in negotiations why send this great offer when you know it wouldn’t be looked at. Seems almost like a disingenuous offer to me that was ever intended to be looked at or considered .

Now that’s 2 offers that weren’t even expected to be taken and here we are after the AJ /Miller fight it’ll be a year since the flat fee was offered. And the fight isn’t on the horizon and it’s going exactly like 21CJ had hoped .

But to the groupie these 2 fake offers are proof 21CJ wants to make the fight and Wilder like every other fighter in his shoes wouldn’t accept those offers because the first one was a ra.pe and couldn’t be considered fair even if it was career high payday . And because of the timing of when it was offers was never intended to be looked at but don’t let the reality of the situation sway what 21CJ has programmed you to think and 2 offers that weren’t even serious are proof 21CJ wants the fight to you

Am sure I can't read all these things you wrote here.
Maybe you should let it go.
Hang on to your believe while I hang on to mine and we are all good.

[R_Walken]

Am sure I can't read all these things you wrote here.
Maybe you should let it go.
Hang on to your believe while I hang on to mine and we are all good.

Cool ,sorry for the novel

Dude at this point I know there’s nothing I could say to make any of you guys stop believing in the narrative given

All good , have a good one

[champion4ever]

I just don't see Fury ever becoming this crossover, mainstream box office draw among casual fans in the states with his fighting style.

He has a non crowd pleasing style. ESPN signing of him was an act of desperation because he is not going to pack enough meat in the seats.

Fans likes to see offense in boxing matches not defense. That was the backlash against Money May for years because he was perceived as boring and strictly defensive boxer who hardly threw enough punches.

[The plunger man]

This is a perfect example of how deluded most of you guys are and who’s love for your countrymen overrides reality, typing any ****** thought that comes to mind

weren’t you sh.itting on Fury before the fight , now you’re on his d.ick more then his wife pathetic

You realize you look straight ******ed to say Fury responsible for the PPV #s . You know Fury’s had 2 fights in the States , Cunningham in which no one watched and when he beat Klit that most thought was the worse fight they’ve ever seen ; Fury hasn’t had a fight viewed in the States in 4’year and he was responsible for the buys and not the guy who for the last 4 years his fights are always among the most watched in the States. Whos probably the most popular American fighter, But yeah they bought the PPV because of a Wikder

Yes Fury doesn’t owe Wikder or the fans a rematch but You guys making excuses and having Fury run away from the rematch as anything other then being shook and having his mojo took and running away from the rematch is a b.itch especially since most thought he won.

Seriously think a Moral Victor would run away from a rematch. Wilders probably the Moral Victor he lost in most people’s eyes but that KD in the 12th shook Fury so hard that his confidence still hasn’t returned and swerved a rematch just so there was no chance of Wilder hitting Fury with another couple A-Bombs and finished what he started in the 12th

wilder lost 9 out of 12 rounds do add it up gumbo. He lost and the 2 knockdown are not enough to pull back the scores.
He lost but got gifted a draw fact

[R_Walken]

wilder lost 9 out of 12 rounds do add it up gumbo. He lost and the 2 knockdown are not enough to pull back the scores.
He lost but got gifted a draw fact

I’m sure when you watched the fight, d****d in the Union Jack that you were Viewing through non biased eyes And scored it fair

But I somehow seriously doubt it , the way you swing off AJs nuts non stop and even though you wrote off Fury and Wilder / Fury before it happend . Fury gave a great performance and won according to most people . You now conveniently swing off his nuts also

If a Uk d.ick rider such as you gave Wilder 3 rounds, It probably means he won at least 5