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  • Laligalaliga
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    #61
    Originally posted by R_Walken
    Cool moved on

    Like how you know what I said is
    True but can’t say sh.it

    Yes Wilder doesn’t want the money and all the straps / accolades that come with winning a AJ fight


    Can you answer why AJ is the first ASide cash cow in the sport that somehow can’t get the fight they supposedly want.

    I mean he’s the first cash cow in the sport who can’t get #2-5 HWs to Get in the ring with him the last year . How come Mayweather or Canelo didn’t have this problem but Hearn wants you to believe AJ somehow does. Could it be possible hearn doesn’t really want to make the fight because when the a-side cash cow want to make the fight they are always able to get it done except now for the first
    Time
    And it’s Wilder who lost the first fight but it’s Fury who ran away from a rematch. When was the last time the public viewed the winner of a controversial fight just sprint away from a rematch in a rather disgraceful fashion

    Is it possible that you have let your blind love for the Union Jack fighters that they’ve fooled you into believing a narrative that’s the opposite of reality
    you question is very simple and glaring for those that have eyes.
    The guy holding the green belt hostage felt too important even when he had an offer almost X10 of his regular pay.
    Is AJ suppose to drag him to the ring when he refused to sign?

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    • uppercut510
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      #62
      I fail to see this dominant performance by fury, tho wilder looked very sloppy a lot of the rounds were close, fury didn't land much but did look sharper. I can see people saying fury won but a robbery?????? dominated wilder?????? no guys just stop it, not sure why any boxing fan wouldn't want to see the rematch but it seems as tho these days boxers business decisions benefit fans more than seeing the best fights.

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      • R_Walken
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        #63
        Originally posted by Laligalaliga
        you question is very simple and glaring for those that have eyes.
        The guy holding the green belt hostage felt too important even when he had an offer almost X10 of his regular pay.
        Is AJ suppose to drag him to the ring when he refused to sign?
        Keep believing the lies

        If Tyson team could pay enough to get Spinks in the ring who looked defeated and knew the outcome before the fight started . There’s a price for every fighter to make a fight even if there scared sh.itless at the end of the day they’re fighters and will get in there for the right amount, but it’s different this time

        Wilder got good money from the Fury fight and Ortiz fights , when was he offered 20-80 million for a AJ fight by Hearn. Weren’t they flat fee offers of 12.5-15 because the fight for all the straps with 2 undefeated Prime HW wasn’t really going to that big and those were really fair offers according to guys who defended it at the time but thadoesn’t seem like 10x his last 2 payday or what you’d expect a fair offer for being involved in the biggest financial fight to make

        Or maybe it’s like I said when Hearn who has the cash cow wants to make the fight it’ll happen with a somewhat fair split of what Wilder brings to the fight and the negotiations won’t be first be told to the media but when Hearns serious he’ll do it behind closed doors . Like the fact you fall for this is getting sad . Did Hearn run to the cameras and eager to discuss the details of the Klit or Parker fight ? No he’s seemed to hold the details close to his chest because that’s not how it’s done when he’s serious he’s not as eager to talk about the entire contract offer line by line in front of the cameras but somehow it’s different when it comes to Wilder

        Wake up man you’re believing in lies
        Last edited by R_Walken; 02-28-2019, 04:09 PM.

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        • turnedup
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          #64
          Originally posted by Laligalaliga
          of course I have nothing to tell you because you know nothing.
          And yet you engaged me and keep talking....

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #65
            Originally posted by R_Walken
            Keep believing the lies

            If Tyson team could pay enough to get Spinks in the ring who looked defeated and knew the outcome before the fight started . There’s a price for every fighter to make a fight even if there scared sh.itless at the end of the day they’re fighters and will get in there for the right amount, but it’s different this time

            Wilder got good money from the Fury fight and Ortiz fights , when was he offered 20-80 million for a AJ fight by Hearn. Weren’t they flat fee offers of 12.5-15 because the fight for all the straps with 2 undefeated Prime HW wasn’t really going to that big and those were really fair offers according to guys who defended it at the time but thadoesn’t seem like 10x his last 2 payday or what you’d expect a fair offer for being involved in the biggest financial fight to make

            Or maybe it’s like I said when Hearn who has the cash cow wants to make the fight it’ll happen with a somewhat fair split of what Wilder brings to the fight and the negotiations won’t be first be told to the media but when Hearns serious he’ll do it behind closed doors . Like the fact you fall for this is getting sad . Did Hearn run to the cameras and eager to discuss the details of the Klit or Parker fight ? No he’s seemed to hold the details close to his chest because that’s not how it’s done when he’s serious he’s not as eager to talk about the entire contract offer line by line in front of the cameras but somehow it’s different when it comes to Wilder

            Wake up man you’re believing in lies
            Wilder already been over paid with that offer. I don't know what else you want team AJ to too.
            The last offer was 40% which declined as well. Are you of the opinion the whole purse should be giving to him?

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            • Laligalaliga
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              #66
              Originally posted by turnedup
              And yet you engaged me and keep talking....
              Well that's because I see you as John Snow.

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              • R_Walken
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                #67
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                Wilder already been over paid with that offer. I don't know what else you want team AJ to too.
                The last offer was 40% which declined as well. Are you of the opinion the whole purse should be giving to him?
                A offer that was sent when he was negotiating a rematch with Fury and thought he wasn’t going to run because Fury seems to be the only one who negotiates with 2 parties at the same time

                You know it was never going to be considered and how convenient to send a good offer and a % instead of a fiat fee

                Like i said wake up

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  A offer that was sent when he was negotiating a rematch with Fury and thought he wasn’t going to run because Fury seems to be the only one who negotiates with 2 parties at the same time

                  You know it was never going to be considered and how convenient to send a good offer and a % instead of a fiat fee

                  Like i said wake up
                  I believe you are one that need to wake up here...
                  You just can't read in between the lines.

                  Wilder is the least guy that is willing to take risks which is why he had never been in any unification match.

                  Is that too hard for you to understand?

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                  • STREET CLEANER
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                    #69
                    The Brits are more worried about what their fighters are getting paid or status rather than see good fights.

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                    • R_Walken
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      I believe you are one that need to wake up here...
                      You just can't read in between the lines.

                      Wilder is the least guy that is willing to take risks which is why he had never been in any unification match.

                      Is that too hard for you to understand?
                      Seriously are you that dumb to make that statement

                      Wilder doesn’t have any unifications because AJ the cash cow you know the one who’s team can make any fight they want when they want were able to pay far more to Martin/Parker then Wilder
                      Could , You think Wilder wouldnt have wanted to beat the dog sh.it out of Martin or Parker but AJ could offer more. That’s why Hearn could over pay Martin to buy that strap and offered Parker a %. But Wilder was expected to take a flat fee last summer even though he’s has the a American market / Is known how many times more then Parker/ Holds the last strap /AJ /Wilder Fight is much bigger than a AJ /Parker fight. Why wouldn’t Hearn offer a % when Parker got one and doesn’t bring nearly as much as Wilder. Maybe it was never supposed to be taken seriously. And why didnt Hearn want to give updates on every detail about the Parker fight he was always very guarded about the negotiating I don’t think ever actually gave the % Parker would get. But now with Wilder he seems content to negotiate through the public

                      You’re proving my point Cash cows get the fights they want when they want and that’s why AJ could get those straps but somehow in the case of Wilder they couldnt offer a decent % in the summer or when they did he was in the middle of negotiating another fight which they knew would never be considered . When they want it it’ll be a private negotiation and a somewhat fair offer to Wilder like every other time

                      Or this new 15 mil 50/50 offer when just last week Hearn said he wanted the Wilder right next for AJ , but now he wants to lose a bunch of money for Wilder to fight whoever before a AJ fight can go down t. who knows when the AJ /Wilder fight would be maybe at that point Wilder will be almost 35 and on the decline

                      How can you not see what’s going on
                      Hearn will make it when he wants and that’ll be when Wilders athletically is on the decline probably no earlier till then end of 2020 to give AJ as much advantage as possible everything else is
                      BS

                      Wake up

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