Fury don't owe wilder nothing

[Ajvar]

No because he can't get a PPV elsewhere!

So choose finally your point: Wilder does or does not want to have a smoke of "prime fury" because what's the exact point of your posts? Aside of shaky hate, of course.

[R_Walken]

Spare me all these long sermon, it's full of same BS you have been propagating around.
Explain to me how a champ with 10defences and no unification. Am not sure it has ever happened in the history of boxing.

All of a sudden every body in the division that has a belt refused to fight you when you have got 50mil behind you.

Do you really think before writing these rubbish? Of what use is all that fvvking money?

Holding that green belt hostage is the reason we have not had an undisputed which would have been behind Mike Tyson as the second fastest to achieve the legendary status.

I’m sorry for the long post

That contain enough verifiable facts or opinion that can easily be backed up. I already addressed the Unification thing you want to ignore it, Cool I don’t give 2 f.ucks I don’t care

As for his team having 50 , yeah theyd use it to take control of the biggest HW fight in decades thatll gross enough to profit. they’re not going to use it to get Parker in the ring who has no name and just lose a bunch of cash. I don’t think they got ahold of 50 mil by just wasting
Money

I got it AJ groupies like you will not consider anything that doesn’t already strengthen your belief. Nothing I could do will change your opinion , you can’t prove anything I write is false so it’s easier just say I’m a fool and dumb and that sensation in your head when you read my sh.it is called thinking and it scares you guys . I know I got it

I could shown you a video of Hearn laughing saying how dumb the groupies are for believing his lies and youd say I doctored the video

I also know Hearn can do his next interview on IFIlm and basically say
He woke up today and heard the voice of god in his dreams whisper to him he was the 21st century Jesus who turns his followers ignorance into piles of $ for himself and with in 24Hr there’d be picture of Hearn leaning against a crucifix like he’s Danny Devito on the cover of the movie Twins winking and giving 2 finger guns would be displayed in their living room.

Just 1 more thing and tell me if I’m lying

We can all agree Dela Hoya has the best resume in his era

Or that Mayweather has if not the best the second best resume of his era

Or that Canelo has the best resume for any active fighter under 30

Or that AJ has the best resume among his peers at HW

for some strange reason every cash cow always have the best resume among his peers

Probably has nothing to do with the ability to get any fight they want whenever they want it , more of a luck thing I bet

Can we admit now that AJs team because of his cash cow status can get any fight they want and that includes Wilder if they wanted to make it , It include Ortiz if they wanted it or even Fury

Theres no proof of Fighters avoiding Oscar , Floyd or Canelo when they call your name you run as fast as you can and that’s how they build up the best resumes because a fighter has no reason not to fight them it’s not like most of their opponents didn’t know they weren’t going to get beat down but it doesn’t matter because when they call their name they’re thankful that it’s them who will get beat down by the cash cow

So be honest AJ a cash cow isn’t avoided he can get any fight he wants and the reason he hasn’t fought Wilder , Ortiz or Fury is not because they’re running but because AJ team doesn’t want it.

Unless you want to believe AJ is the only
Cash cow who when they call your name they dont come running. for some weird reason he’s the only one who have them run in the opposite direction

[Laligalaliga]

I’m sorry for the long post

That contain enough verifiable facts or opinion that can easily be backed up. I already addressed the Unification thing you want to ignore it, Cool I don’t give 2 f.ucks I don’t care

As for his team having 50 , yeah theyd use it to take control of the biggest HW fight in decades thatll gross enough to profit. they’re not going to use it to get Parker in the ring who has no name and just lose a bunch of cash. I don’t think they got ahold of 50 mil by just wasting
Money

I got it AJ groupies like you will not consider anything that doesn’t already strengthen your belief. Nothing I could do will change your opinion , you can’t prove anything I write is false so it’s easier just say I’m a fool and dumb and that sensation in your head when you read my sh.it is called thinking and it scares you guys . I know I got it

I could shown you a video of Hearn laughing saying how dumb the groupies are for believing his lies and youd say I doctored the video

I also know Hearn can do his next interview on IFIlm and basically say
He woke up today and heard the voice of god in his dreams whisper to him he was the 21st century Jesus who turns his followers ignorance into piles of $ for himself and with in 24Hr there’d be picture of Hearn leaning against a crucifix like he’s Danny Devito on the cover of the movie Twins winking and giving 2 finger guns would be displayed in their living room.

Just 1 more thing and tell me if I’m lying

We can all agree Dela Hoya has the best resume in his era

Or that Mayweather has if not the best the second best resume of his era

Or that Canelo has the best resume for any active fighter under 30

Or that AJ has the best resume among his peers at HW

for some strange reason every cash cow always have the best resume among his peers

Probably has nothing to do with the ability to get any fight they want whenever they want it , more of a luck thing I bet

Can we admit now that AJs team because of his cash cow status can get any fight they want and that includes Wilder if they wanted to make it , It include Ortiz if they wanted it or even Fury

Theres no proof of Fighters avoiding Oscar , Floyd or Canelo when they call your name you run as fast as you can and that’s how they build up the best resumes because a fighter has no reason not to fight them it’s not like most of their opponents didn’t know they weren’t going to get beat down but it doesn’t matter because when they call their name they’re thankful that it’s them who will get beat down by the cash cow

So be honest AJ a cash cow isn’t avoided he can get any fight he wants and the reason he hasn’t fought Wilder , Ortiz or Fury is not because they’re running but because AJ team doesn’t want it.

Unless you want to believe AJ is the only
Cash cow who when they call your name they dont come running. for some weird reason he’s the only one who have them run in the opposite direction

A career pay day was sent to wilder but he couldn't sign. A 40% was sent to fury, he fixed off
What else do you want man?
Maybe wilder should be giving all the purse to keep you happy.
I can remember vividly wilder open said its not about the money and all of sudden money is the reason why the fight didn't hold.
You can't defend that shhyte, just give it up.

[R_Walken]

A career pay day was sent to wilder but he couldn't sign. A 40% was sent to fury, he fixed off
What else do you want man?
Maybe wilder should be giving all the purse to keep you happy.
I can remember vividly wilder open said its not about the money and all of sudden money is the reason why the fight didn't hold.
You can't defend that shhyte, just give it up.

It’s sad but expected Minion that you have to stick and believe the lies you’ve been told

And when Hearn decides he wants the fight you’ll believe that it was Wilder who finally grew some nuts and not Hearn who decided it was time because you’re dumb enough to believe that Hearns wanted to make it for years and it just so happens Wilder will grow some nuts when his athleticism is on the decline probably not the best time to grow some nuts

So long Groupie

I know you can’t wake up so Keep believing in the lies spoon fed to you , I’m sure that the mixture of ignorance, thoughtlessness, lack of self respect , Groupieism tastes delicious to you

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The ironic thing is, if Wilder's team hadn't robbed Fury and took their L fairly, the rematch would be happening as it was in the original contract.

[Laligalaliga]

It’s sad but expected Minion that you have to stick and believe the lies you’ve been told

And when Hearn decides he wants the fight you’ll believe that it was Wilder who finally grew some nuts and not Hearn who decided it was time because you’re dumb enough to believe that Hearns wanted to make it for years and it just so happens Wilder will grow some nuts when his athleticism is on the decline probably not the best time to grow some nuts

So long Groupie

I know you can’t wake up so Keep believing in the lies spoon fed to you , I’m sure that the mixture of ignorance, thoughtlessness, lack of self respect , Groupieism tastes delicious to you

If this is all your mind is telling you, I have no problems with that. You can stick to which ever side of the story you want to believe. I followed that negotiation closely and I saw all the BS in it.
Offering you a chance to 4 belts and a career pay is enough incentives to make the undisputed fight at the time.
If you think otherwise, there is nothing I can do for you.

[hugh grant]

True, fury was robbed. So before fury is nice to wilder, wilder needs to give Fury back what he robbed off him!

[The plunger man]

Fury doesn't owe Wilder anything.

Fair play to Wilder for fighting him in the first place, but let's be honest here, the only reason Fury got the shot was due to his name, and the fact that Team Wilder thought he was finished. Wilder thought it would be a nice easy W, he could claim the lineal title and thus gain more clout for a potential AJ fight.

Fury went to Wilder's backyard as the B side & got robbed blind by Haymon's judges. Fury won that fight, why should he have to give everything away to the loser?

Fury deserves to be the A side in the rematch, it's only fair.

Wilder should have fought over here for the rematch with fury , and seeing as fury schooled wilder he was also the moral victor
I would also say it was furys name that mosty drew that 300k ppv numbers as well so unless wilders teams were prepared to play fair with fury he had every right to make his own plans.
So yeah he owes wilder jack squat.
I don't know him signing with arum is a good thing though as arum really is the Anti christ.
The dosser and the dosserettes can go kiss fury's ass now

[R_Walken]

If this is all your mind is telling you, I have no problems with that. You can stick to which ever side of the story you want to believe. I followed that negotiation closely and I saw all the BS in it.
Offering you a chance to 4 belts and a career pay is enough incentives to make the undisputed fight at the time.
If you think otherwise, there is nothing I can do for you.

Im sure you followed it very closely and hung off every word of Hearn or do you prefer I now call him 21st Century Jesus

We can agree that right now AJ/Wilder is the biggest fight to be made. The biggest financial fight that can be made . The biggest HW fight in decades . And historic with everything at stake and the winner will be seen as hands down this eras #1 HW and be forever in the History books for being Undisputed.

And I’m sure in your mind that has to be told How to think.

not budging from a flat fee offer of 12.5 and then reluctantly bump it to 15 last summer was very generous of 21st C.J to offer Wilder since it would be his highest payday he should have jumped at the opportunity when it was presented . Although a fight of this magnitude a flat fee is never given to the b-side it’s always a % and AJs previous opponet Parker was given a % and by every metric Wilder is a bigger name , has the bigger market . AJ/Wilder would exceeds AJ /Parker in every way .

How could you justify a flat fee for Wilder and Parker getting a %.
Let’s say the fight generates 100 million or even if it bombs let’s say 50 millions
why would Wilder even consider taking maybe12.5- 15% and just let 21CJ and AJ have the other 85% or even at 50 mil would give Wilder 30% and give the other 35-37.5 mil to AJ . You realize that Parker received a higher % then Wilder would have made . Even though with Wilder it’s a bigger fight. Does that seem fair

No fighter in the sport would allow themselves to get ****d in Negotiations and give them only a 12.5-15 - 25-30% of the total pie ( you have to admit the events success is a result of Wilder it’s not just AJ who’d make the fight huge )and have AJ the potential to make up to 85 mil . No one sells themselves so short in negotiations that they’d be laughed at within the Boxing community for ripping themselves off so bad even if it is a career high day . just to hand the remainder to the other side
its not a fair deal and was never a real attempt by 21CJ to make the fight. You have to agree
I know at this point you probably won’t because that have you going against 21CJ and what he told you is the truth. But those negotiatins were BS and just like when Oscar offered Gennady a 10 mil offer to fight Canelo and wasn’t even considered by Golovkins team because it was a joke. When Canelo/ Golovkin fought Gennady got a % like every other fighter who’s the b-side in a super fight but just like AJ is the only cash cow avoided . Wilder should also be expected to be the only B-side fighter in a super fignt to take a flat and not even come close to the revenue he brings to the fight


I’m sure you also believe that when 21CJ offered Wilder 40% for the Wembley fight he again should have jumped and come running to 21CJ for being so generous that even though according to you had every intention of holding the strap hostage and has proved this by going out of his way to fight the #3 & #4 HWs something AJ hasnt done can only be seen as reaffirming his cowardice. Now Hearn knew Wikder was in the middle of negotiating with Fury .No fighter or their team except appearantly Fury negotiate with 2 different parties at the same time. Wilder assumed Fury wasn’t a b.itch and wanted the rematch, if you know they’re in negotiations why send this great offer when you know it wouldn’t be looked at. Seems almost like a disingenuous offer to me that was ever intended to be looked at or considered .

Now that’s 2 offers that weren’t even expected to be taken and here we are after the AJ /Miller fight it’ll be a year since the flat fee was offered. And the fight isn’t on the horizon and it’s going exactly like 21CJ had hoped .

But to the groupie these 2 fake offers are proof 21CJ wants to make the fight and Wilder like every other fighter in his shoes wouldn’t accept those offers because the first one was a ra.pe and couldn’t be considered fair even if it was career high payday . And because of the timing of when it was offers was never intended to be looked at but don’t let the reality of the situation sway what 21CJ has programmed you to think and 2 offers that weren’t even serious are proof 21CJ wants the fight to you

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Wilder should have fought over here for the rematch with fury , and seeing as fury schooled wilder he was also the moral victor
I would also say it was furys name that mosty drew that 300k ppv numbers as well so unless wilders teams were prepared to play fair with fury he had every right to make his own plans.
So yeah he owes wilder jack squat.
I don't know him signing with arum is a good thing though as arum really is the Anti christ.
The dosser and the dosserettes can go kiss fury's ass now

I imagine the 10 million dollars on offer probably helped persuade him to sign with Arum.